Large tractor to shunt engines about

[windmiller78]

Originally Posted by buzzy bee

The TM190 is a far bigger more powerful tractor than the TW15, your right about the TWs going I up in value as far as machinery ever does, but the TM is a better tractor for pushing/pulling heavy things, I know from experience in a boat yard.

Bit of googling proves this in figures:

TM 190 weighs 14782 to 17470 pounds

TW 15 weighs 11355 to 16680 pounds

TM190 are the heavier tractor and lift far more on the links

TW 15 7,150 lbs
TM 190 17,085 lbs

don't believe all you read there's such things as ballast and weights, ours is over 9 ton on a weigh bridge, the weights on the inside of the wheels are 485 kg plus water in the tyres and a ton on the front. as for pulling and pushing never moved a boat but moved plenty of other things, TM 190s are prone to braking the gearboxs. the 65s are the biggest you want to buy as theyre the same back end in all of the 150 plus and they won't take the power. TWs can also be opened up easily...but ours is about 150... don't need an more....

[buzzy bee]

Originally Posted by windmiller78

don't believe all you read there's such things as ballast and weights, ours is over 9 ton on a weigh bridge, the weights on the inside of the wheels are 485 kg plus water in the tyres and a ton on the front. as for pulling and pushing never moved a boat but moved plenty of other things, TM 190s are prone to braking the gearboxs. the 65s are the biggest you want to buy as theyre the same back end in all of the 150 plus and they won't take the power. TWs can also be opened up easily...but ours is about 150... don't need an more....

Yes you can weight up any tractor, including a TM. The base tractor however starts off heavier that was my point.

We have used TM 190's in anger lots of times with no problems, must depend who is using them.

I'd stick to the TM190.

In all honesty though, most engines will be shunted by a telehandler as per my original post, so this TW TM discussion is not really relevant here.

[windmiller78]

Originally Posted by buzzy bee

Yes you can weight up any tractor, including a TM. The base tractor however starts off heavier that was my point.

We have used TM 190's in anger lots of times with no problems, must depend who is using them.

I'd stick to the TM190.

In all honesty though, most engines will be shunted by a telehandler as per my original post, so this TW TM discussion is not really relevant here.

we've both depends on what you want to move and where, telehandler has crab and 4 wheel steer but hasn't the poke that the tw has its also rubbish on the road and gets hot when you flog it, it has a pick up hitch but not really up to moving its self far let alone towing much. it'll pick up 3 ton and boom out 7 meters.
The tw will pull any thing (you can easily brake stuff) but with practice i can back a four wheel trailer/ engine / drum onto our low loader in one go... its also handy on the road and at other jobs... if we had a concreted yard and a lorry i'd manage wth the telehandler, but tbh for shunting the tractor is heavier therefor better.