Selby Steam Fair 2010

[Trevor 2]

In any other field an object that has been played around with loses much value- ie old clocks, furniture with bits married up or things drastically altered. Even they dont have fairy lights on!!

On our local show at Shrewsbury are several steam and oil engines that have been put back in working order with new engine parts but the rest of them are 'as is/was'. They look the part and show people what they looked like when earning a living.

Trevor

[1882]

Im amazed with all these DNB conversions there are that noone has actualy mannaged to make one look like a proper showmans engine.
Is it just me or dose it look identicle to Turners one, Galaxy and Sovereign?

[mikem]

Originally Posted by 1882

Im amazed with all these DNB conversions there are that noone has actualy mannaged to make one look like a proper showmans engine.
Is it just me or dose it look identicle to Turners one, Galaxy and Sovereign?

To be honest, Royal Sovereign actually looks really good. Its probably the best one I have seen that has been converted.

[1882]

Originally Posted by mikem

To be honest, Royal Sovereign actually looks really good. Its probably the best one I have seen that has been converted.

Bollox dose it

[mikem]

Originally Posted by 1882

Bollox dose it

Im sorry, but is there really any need for such a rude reply. While I completeley disagree with the principle of converting engines, I do think that Royal Soveriegn is one of the best I have seen.

[1882]

Originally Posted by mikem

Im sorry, but is there really any need for such a rude reply. While I completeley disagree with the principle of converting engines, I do think that Royal Soveriegn is one of the best I have seen.

With its daft looking wheels, gross paint job and over sized canopy?

[mikem]

Originally Posted by 1882

With its daft looking wheels, gross paint job and over sized canopy?

I don't think the wheels look daft, and the Canopy seems pretty well proportioned in my view. As for the paint job, what is wrong with it?

[craigctt]

Originally Posted by 1882

With its daft looking wheels, gross paint job and over sized canopy?

Only last weekend at Innishannon were we complemented on the paintwork. Oh, how peoples taste differ. Never mind though, its mine and I like it. Which engine is yours then ?

[weidner]

Originally Posted by 1882

Bollox dose it

Er , what was that ?

[jamespeterbrett]

Originally Posted by mikem

To be honest, Royal Sovereign actually looks really good. It’s probably the best one I have seen that has been converted.

I have yet to see a showler that looks anything like "good" they are all crap, and a complete disregard for authentic exhibits and true preservation, and in no way offers any form of conservation. Quite historically degrading!

If the owner wanted a contrivance like that, why not buy one, there’s a few for sale, Preston’s have been trying to sell the Tabors old one for some time!

What will be next? a Aveling compound SV roller, cut about to have a winch drum under the boiler, and front wheels and traction engine type smoke box to be passed off as a ploughing engine? If the engines in question had be nothing put a pile of scrap, say with the rolls/forks missing then I prob wouldn’t be against them being made into something new, as there was prob little hope of the being restored easily to their original format, but to cut a historically important artifact about, and to smother it in makeup and pass it off for a piece of crap is degrading!

Like wise, people passing of their gorgeous 8NHP showman’s and road locos off on paper as 10NHP. perhaps these people (who seem to do it to boost their ego) should research the build history of their steed a bit more and learn to appreciate genuine traction engine (and British engineering) history a bit more!