Netley Marsh Steam and Craft Show 2014

[Fodenwagon]

Well another year is over, im not going to write a report myself i will let my exhibitors and visitors do that,
But i would like to thank all my exhibitors you are all stars and only give me alittle bit of sh#t!
until next year!
Duncan
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[YYS4BOB]

I hadn't been to this show for some time, and after Welland the day before, it rounded off the weekend nicely. A good mix of makes and types, and a few I'd not seen before. Liked the way they lined up in the arena on Sunday. Plenty of working exhibits as well.

[avelingporter]

Thanks to Duncan and the team. We had a great weekend, despite the unplanned trip home! All well and back in the shed.

Best.

Douglas

[Arfursteam]

Have we any information on programme No. 13 which appears to be under restoration.

Thanks in advance

Arthur

[bertie8ton]

No 12470 type 'DT' of 1929. Allegedly used as a donor after returning from Australia about 2004. Only about 50% of the engine was original when I bought it in 2007. Suspicious bolt holes in the bottom of the smokebox revealed it was dispatched from Rochester in tractor format and converted to a roller using aussie-made rolls/forks/headstock etc. I've had to make both axles, turntable and all the wheels ( Andy Loader made the rims). The chimney base didn't arrive in time to be fitted but was on display. All the above to original A + P drawings. Supposedly based on standard D type roller but some dimensions defy the laws of physics. Bigger bores, stay tubes, axles. The front bracket is just so we can get it on the wagon.

[elijahbell]

Little Lady is looking superb after her renovation, it was many years ago that I enjoyed sitting on a trailer behind her at the Bygone Village in Flegburgh. Good Days!

[The Mover]

Yeah , totally agree. Very smart!

[UJ2225]

Originally Posted by bertie8ton

No 12470 type 'DT' of 1929. Allegedly used as a donor after returning from Australia about 2004. Only about 50% of the engine was original when I bought it in 2007. Suspicious bolt holes in the bottom of the smokebox revealed it was dispatched from Rochester in tractor format and converted to a roller using aussie-made rolls/forks/headstock etc. I've had to make both axles, turntable and all the wheels ( Andy Loader made the rims). The chimney base didn't arrive in time to be fitted but was on display. All the above to original A + P drawings. Supposedly based on standard D type roller but some dimensions defy the laws of physics. Bigger bores, stay tubes, axles. The front bracket is just so we can get it on the wagon.

The front axle is one I sold MLB.

Jim

[Andrew Gibb]

Originally Posted by bertie8ton

No 12470 type 'DT' of 1929. Allegedly used as a donor after returning from Australia about 2004. Only about 50% of the engine was original when I bought it in 2007. Suspicious bolt holes in the bottom of the smokebox revealed it was dispatched from Rochester in tractor format and converted to a roller using aussie-made rolls/forks/headstock etc. I've had to make both axles, turntable and all the wheels ( Andy Loader made the rims). The chimney base didn't arrive in time to be fitted but was on display. All the above to original A + P drawings. Supposedly based on standard D type roller but some dimensions defy the laws of physics. Bigger bores, stay tubes, axles. The front bracket is just so we can get it on the wagon.

G'day mate. You certainly have done a nice job. However the engine was built as a roller and worked as a roller in Sydney.

As with many Aveling rollers sold to Australia, to avoid higher import tariffs for imported steam rollers (as there was a small roller manufacturing base in Australia that the Federal Government was trying to protect) the agent Noyes Bros imported the rollers on TE wheels, then added the locally made roller components here. Apart from the Works photo of one looking silly with the strange chimney base casting (see Michael Lane's Aveling book), I don't think there is any record of any actually staying on TE wheels once in Australia. If a customer wanted one like that, they would have bought a convertible. It's a no brainer.

So you have got yourself a wrecked roller now converted to a traction engine. No more, no less.

Cheers,

G.

[forester_neil]

Originally Posted by Andrew Gibb

As with many Aveling rollers sold to Australia, to avoid higher import tariffs for imported steam rollers (as there was a small roller manufacturing base in Australia that the Federal Government was trying to protect) the agent Noyes Bros imported the rollers on TE wheels, then added the locally made roller components here. Apart from the Works photo of one looking silly with the strange chimney base casting (see Michael Lane's Aveling book), I don't think there is any record of any actually staying on TE wheels once in Australia. If a customer wanted one like that, they would have bought a convertible. It's a no brainer.

Despite the restoration/conservation/preservation argument here, I think it's bloody funny to see that even 100 years ago, people and even Local Governments were trying to dodge taxes! There's also the interesting issue of local market and manufacturing protection through import tariffs, which strikes a pretty raw nerve at the moment out here if you drive a Holden, Ford, Toyota, Mitsubishi, etc etc

Trying to minimise tax was a driver behind the design of light-weight steam tractors in England. Trying to minimise tax or dodge import duties changed how Aveling exported engines to Australia - that in itself is interesting enough to ensure that the information remains correct and within context of this engine.

Cheers