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the_asylum_wanderer 23rd December 2014 01:28 PM

Marshall water bowser
 
I have been looking for pictures of Marshall water bowser , ( not even sure that they made them ) the type that has a spray bar at the back and would have been used by the road tarmac gangs ,
Can anyone help please or point me in the right direction

marshall45825 23rd December 2014 03:56 PM

Is this the sort of thing you mean?

http://www.tractiontalkforum.com/pic...ictureid=21628

the_asylum_wanderer 23rd December 2014 04:07 PM

YAY :) that's exactly what I mean , great stuff, can I ask where you found that picture ? and are there any more like it ?

marshall45825 23rd December 2014 04:15 PM

I'm pretty sure it came off google but it doesn't seem to come up now. Having said that I can get different pictures come up on a search using the computers at work to what I get at home. It seems to me that not all internet access gives the same results.

I did a pull up a number of pictures for that type of water cart as I have a Randell water cart to restore.

weidner 23rd December 2014 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_asylum_wanderer (Post 322547)
I have been looking for pictures of Marshall water bowser , ( not even sure that they made them ) the type that has a spray bar at the back and would have been used by the road tarmac gangs ,
Can anyone help please or point me in the right direction

Not for TARmaccing tho' . Pre tar and bitumin days roads were made of waterbound roadstone . Suitable stone was supplied broken to size at the quarry , or was broken on site by a man with a hammer . The old surface was broken up by hand or with a scarifier , and the stone removed . The fresh stone was spread on the exposed foundations watered by the water cart , and rolled in by the roller . A competant roller driver could help form the camber of the road the way in which he worked over the job . Cambers were much more pronounced than we are used to , hence the conical rear wheel treads on some Burrell engines ( and others ?? )

This watering and rolling continued until the stone was levelled and firmly compacted in its own dust . The slurry formed by the rolling was swept back onto the road by the gang with brooms as the roller worked , and it was forced into the formation by the roller . Thus a good surface was obtained , but it was muddy in winter , and chokingly dusty in summer once pneumatic tyred motor vehicles appeared . The frost would freeze and heave the formation , causing it to break up in winter . So long as the traffic was iron tyred and horse drawn it was surprisingly durable . This was the system of roadmaking introduced by MacAdam .

Efforts were made later to solve the dust and frost problems by sealing the surface with gasworks tar .

the_asylum_wanderer 23rd December 2014 06:01 PM

I did try a google search , but didn't get that type of cart to come up, I would be interested to know if Marshall made carts like that , or did they leave things like that to other companies .

marshall45825 23rd December 2014 06:43 PM

Marshall's were a general engineering firm and made absolutely allsorts from steam engines to tea machinery to midget submarines. Its unlikely they subbed out for water carts.

If you look at the picture it shows several Marshall features like the wheels and hub caps which were used on their portables.

If you search on google try water cart within images. It comes up with quite a few, although most are modern there are plenty of the type, just not Marshalls. If you complicate the search by adding Marshall into it, it throws it off into another tangent.

Tar-Pot 23rd December 2014 06:53 PM

http://www.tractiontalkforum.com/pic...ictureid=21629 http://www.tractiontalkforum.com/pic...ictureid=21630 http://www.tractiontalkforum.com/pic...ictureid=21631

This Marshall water cart was on e-bay some time ago. I was quite tempted but we already have a Baker as well as a Reeves.

the_asylum_wanderer 23rd December 2014 07:00 PM

Now we are cooking :) , many thanks .

marshall8hp 23rd December 2014 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weidner (Post 322567)
Not for TARmaccing tho' . Pre tar and bitumin days roads were made of waterbound roadstone .......... gasworks tar .

Clearly it is a little cold for working in the shed this evening!


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