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Chuffyshunter 30th June 2013 08:16 PM

Marshall Water Pump drawing or pattern
 
I'm after Marshall Drawing Number 11255, its for a waterpump for an 8 horse TE.

Failing a drawing, a pattern would be great..

PM me any info,

8_10 Brass Cleaner 1st July 2013 08:14 AM

Jack

I have a pattern for a pump for a geared down pump like fitted to my Tractor.

What does your pump look like?

marshall8hp 1st July 2013 08:51 AM

It might be a bit small Hedd. This isn't the drawing number for a geared down pump for an 8hp, that is drawing number 42686.

8_10 Brass Cleaner 1st July 2013 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marshall8hp (Post 262189)
It might be a bit small Hedd. This isn't the drawing number for a geared down pump for an 8hp, that is drawing number 42686.

It depends, being geared down in my application the plunger isn't that small. Would be ok on a direct drive on a bigger engine.

The casting fixes on its bottom face.

Chuffyshunter 1st July 2013 10:33 AM

We haven't got the pump as we Need to make a whole new one from scratch, all I know is its an 8hp Single traction engine of 1897.. It's drawing number 11255.. That's all we know.. It's out there, there is a record of it..

8_10 Brass Cleaner 1st July 2013 10:34 AM

Jack

See if the Gainsborough Heritage Society have the drawing, and get a copy.

Chuffyshunter 1st July 2013 10:45 AM

The had the drawing but they have lent it to someone and not got it back.. Therefore it must be out there somewhere.. Just wondered if anyone had a copy or knew where it could be..

marshall8hp 1st July 2013 01:47 PM

The geared down pump on an 8hp has a completely different third shaft RH bearing bracket. It is a massive cast affair and mounts the pump. It has a 2" plunger. It basically isn't possible to fit a geard down pump to an engine that didn't have one, unless you can source the corresponding "combined pump and intershaft bracket".

8_10 Brass Cleaner 1st July 2013 02:56 PM

This is actually the pump off my engine, now on another.

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tti/12/008_1043.jpg

As you can see, the plunger isn't that small.

The tractors have the geared down bit behind the flywheel, the gears drive a crank about the size of an Austin 7 crankshaft in a seperate casing with its own bronze bearings, and thence drives the pump by a connecting rod.

The pump casting itself has a flat bottom, and thus it would be fairly simple to make a bracket up to suit any application, provided of course it is understood the controls etc are handed. A direct drive off a eccentric with suitable throw would be fine.


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