Weeting
 

Visited yesterday and managed to stay dry. Good show with lots of action/movement from the steam boys. Shame about Sentinal 8827 being unable to attend. The Tiger looked very smart, unlike it's shirtless driver. Personally I don't think I'd drive an engine without a shirt for safety reasons.
However, some pictures of the day.

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Belting Burrell 1244 Marina to the stone crusher.

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Burrell 2693 was still sheeted whe I left at 2.30.

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Burrell 2948 Dreadnought was busy all day with the impressive threshing set.

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Burrell 3833 Queen Mary looks so fine in its working clothes

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Burrell 4088 Rosemarie in picturesque setting in the woodsawing area.

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Fowler 11421 The Countess with a pair of impressive traction wagons.

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Fowler 15629 The Tiger positively gleams in the sun.

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As above

That will do for now.

Any news on trouble in the beer tent Saturday night?

Personally I wouldn't have a problem with doing so. I also regualrly wear short sleeves on an engine.

I've seen comments regarding this on TT before. Stood on a traction engine, the boiler is beneath you, the bit most likely to burn and scald is the gauge glass. It is at shin height. For that reason I would not wear shorts, having burned my knee badly once sheeting an engine up after I had changed into shorts for a balmy evening.

Is this ''it is dangerous'' manure a railway thing?, where the crew are stood behind a boiler with the gague frames at arm and head height?.

Has Queen Mary had a larger dynamo fitted since removal from Vivs yard?

I think it's also about having some protection on your arms in order to be able to isolate a gauge glass - though of course this depends on how you go about doing it?
I always have a jacket handy to chuck over a broken glass to block some of the steam for this purpose.

Conversely, I've seen people on railway locomotive footplates stripped to the waste on hot days - totally useless if a glass went - they'd never get near it.

By the looks of it yes, Queen Mary has been fitted with a bigger dynamo. The body is certainly a different one to the old one.

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tth/09/DSC_3758.jpg

To pinch one of David's photos from another thread.

Confirms its had a bigger dynamo fitted

Also different to this one
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did mr parretts new burrell turn up if so any picts

as regards to the above, not as far as i could see, and yes its now using Ex-mayors old dynamo, as its still blue with all its gold leaf. was a good 3 days and were off again next year

It was me that commented previously. A railway thing if you like, but water at 150c and upwards flashing into steam and then vapourising won't just pick on your shins- honest. If you are supremely confident in the integrity of any restrictors and balls in the frames, then take the risk, but if not, please reconsider. A glass rarely gives notice of its intentions so it is a shock when it happens. So many accidents have happened as a knock on of the Driver nursing injuries, so not being able to attend to his duties. Remember, a protector often acts as a deflector, spreading the good news around the footplate and if you don't have backplates, the shards of glass get everywhere. Boring Vern.

Good job I have a Klinger then Vern. PS seen one go in a Sentinel cab at 275yet?

You will not believe this, but guess what happened today... albeit only 255psi. We have a restrictor in the top and a ball at the bottom, but still a nice little bang. As for the rest of it, I won't argue with you, but I will generalise. Depending on the engine, pipes and their joints have been known to fail and blowbacks from the firehole are hardly rare and cotton affords at least some protection.My real concern is for those who use the same glass year after year and don't wear overalls- a combination odds on to conspire to disaster. The other thing is that engine sense comes from an aptitude that not everyone has. I have been teacher at both experience day and proffessional levels more times than I can remember and the candidates vary from great potential to hopeless.. Bearing in mind the only formal qualification for road steam is money, the passing on of best practice helps to protect us all. If you think I'm being a killjoy, I'm sorry and it certainly isn't my intention- I am actually capable of having a good time and do have an intermittent sense of humour. Vern.

Vern - What a way to start the holiday season !

Interesting to hear about the restrictor in the top fitting . Sounds a good idea . What have you got in the back of your protector , a grill ?

I used to have a pair of heavy melton trousers when I drove Mr. Shone's waggons . They looked , shall we say , period , but were good protection , and ended the season with a nice shine on them ( Melton is what donkey jackets are , or were , made from ) I was blacksmithing at the time , and so they kept the heat off my legs at work too .

Owners of Fowlers , and others with their gauge frames tucked away behind the third shaft , may be interested to hear that the modern BONETTI reflex fittings will fit in a much more restricted space than the Klinger pattern . A nice man at Chanter Biomed took one off the shelf and measured it when I rang him , and there will be plenty of room for one on my Fowler .

They don't look bad at all , and on a Fowler they cannot easily be seen anyhow , so they should not spoil your authenticity . You do not need to use the Bonetti gauge frame , just the bit that goes in place of the glass , as with the Klinger . They are also about £ 100 cheaper than the Klinger pattern .

Hi, I have a back plate, held on with a couple of brass screws- very useful and good at stopping flying glass. The restrictor is a small loose valve that seats if the glass breaks, again it's very helpful.

I have an example of what I think is the ultimate , a protector with a hinged back panel , with a white plate with diagonal slots , and a grill with about 10 to the inch mesh outside of that . That way a blowout can vent freely to the back , without any glass flying .

They are (wash my mouth out) standard on some companies railway locomotives and like you say- the ultimate.

the burrell 2693 was uncover in the afternoon and being filled with water.

as for the threashing set knackered would have been a better word to use.

as for 8827 see the discussion section.

glen

................even the chaff cutter?

Having met you in person on our quite regular trips to Whitby, I can honestly say you're certainly no bore or killjoy Vern, but when it comes to steam, you're probably the most genuinely knowledgeable and experienced member of TT!

Here's looking forward to November!

Some pic's from the event. Apparantly, the driver of Lord Derby left the crane gear ingaged, so when reversing so it bent the supports holding the crane up. Oops :eek:

I think i wood fit some sort of interlock on the leavers to stop this happening .

Ronald Clark did the same thing on ' Emperor ' at Woburn in 1960 . Tom Paisley was the owner , and was not amused .

Come to think of it , is this not the same crane gear , transferred from ' Emperor ' .

Yes.

yes they did it was very entertaining to watch,just goes to show how much some people know about running engines.
i dont thing it bent anything it just wound up and over the pulley and crashed onto the deck.

my photos will be online soon fingers crossed the computer is still working by then.

glen

oops......

I think they done it twice because i saw them do it on the Saturday, without any damage, but i think they also did it on the Sunday, bending the supports. See pictures. Double oops :eek: !!!!

dear o dear i wonder how long it will be before they bother repairing it???

glen

Sounds like a lesson learnt by someone!

Just pick something heavy up with it. Soon straighten them.

Any pics of the Green Marshall roller in the background in the first bent pic?.

Here you go

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This one?

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Yes it is the Ex-mayors it is the one that use to be on the engine when vick had th engine it was fitted for the rally and tested on the wens before the rally by the drive belt from the craine engine in the barn to make sure it worked for the rally as the craine engine was the only engine I had in steam.