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TractionTime

4th July 2009 06:03 PM

Elvaston Castle Steam Rally 2009 (Large Pictures)

MG	4th July 2009 06:45 PM

whats with the roofless fowler theme??

millsie

4th July 2009 06:50 PM

well excelsior is kept on the owners front garden so that has probably just rotted away and is being replaced, but its only a guess, and i have no clue about the others lol

steamenginedriver

6th July 2009 09:10 PM

Ruston

6th July 2009 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by millsie (Post 67788)

well excelsior is kept on the owners front garden so that has probably just rotted away and is being replaced, but its only a guess, and i have no clue about the others lol

Excelsior is no longer in the garden as its changed owners ,new owners removed canopy so they could get a better sun tan when roading .

aveling barford

6th July 2009 10:03 PM

A great rally this year , many thanks to all who attended,
Peter Jacobs ( engine sec )

steamenginedriver

6th July 2009 11:00 PM

Fowler15323

9th July 2009 08:46 PM

Hehe! I think the tanning idea on Exi worked rather well!!
And i have to say Mr Brothwell!! If i was you and i had two dashing young girls in the bunker of my engine i would at least crack a smile !! :P :P

Fantastic rally this year!! Glad the weather stayed well!

4040	9th July 2009 09:37 PM

Not wishing to start any debates, and this is just out of interest.

Does anyone know the story behind the Burrell tractor conversion?
As in when/why it was done? I have to say it does look quite pretty.

FTR3456

10th July 2009 09:52 AM

The Burrell tractor does look good.It had had me going there as their are only 2 sc tractors and both in the South island of New Zealand.I do think there was 1 in Aus with 7 foot wheels as I did see a photo when I was a Kid. Garry

notyalc

10th July 2009 07:03 PM

Isn't it one of the Ex King's rollers?

4040	10th July 2009 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by notyalc (Post 68375)

Isn't it one of the Ex King's rollers?

No I don't think so.
Of the two Kings rollers one has been converted, I believe it's now called "The Scout"
I don't know whats happened to the other one, It was for sale a long time ago, I did enquire about it at the time but don't think it got sold. A georgeuos looking roller though, there is a picture of one of them in Burrell Style.

I believe the engine in question may be 4083, ex 8 ton roller. There is a listing in the Burrell Style book that seems to corespond.

weidner

10th July 2009 08:58 PM

The ' Burrell Tractor Conversion ' is an interesting story , as told to me by the owner .

He tells me that this was an unsold 7.1/4 ton double crank tractor , which Burrells converted to a SC roller in order to get a sale to a local Norfolk council . It still has the winding drum and the footplate diff lock . I seem to remember that the number is 4083 which would be about 1927 , when Burrells were lucky to sell anything to anyone .

It is now very nearly a SC Burrell ' Irish ' traction engine , and certainly something which Burrells might well have made out of the 7.1/4 ton tractor / 10 ton roller / Irish engine kits of parts . One must bear in mind that at times Burrells seemed scarcely able to make two engines alike , or to decide on what a certain ' model ' of engine consisted of .

4040	10th July 2009 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by weidner (Post 68390)

Theres no doubt it's based on an 8 ton roller, which would make it smaller than an Irish engine. The Irish engine has the same boiler diameter as the 10ton rollers.
Whatever it is, it's a pretty looking engine, do you know when it was changed from a roller?

celtic steamer

11th July 2009 08:46 AM

Burrell Tractor

4083 was sold new to Mutford & Lothingland RDC in 1928.Converted back to tractor form by owner a few years ago and completely restored.Front wheels are aveling and a set of Burrell tractor wheels have now been located and will go on probably over the winter months.Named "So -Be-It" it really is done to a very high standard.Tom.

weidner

11th July 2009 10:06 AM

Mr. 4040 ,

I have just checked in Gilbert , and the 6 and 8 ton rollers based on the 5 ton tractor had a 1'10" boiler . The Irish and the 7.1/4 ton tractor and the class A roller had 2' boilers , and the same cylinder sizes , as also the ' Colonist ' engine .. The Irish engine might well have had a bigger firebox than the tractor , I shall have a look and see what Gilbert says . All this is with my aforesaid proviso about Burrells being unable to build two the same .

PS. It appears that the first 7.1/4 ton tractor had a Class A roller boiler , the other two had a firebox shallower by one row of stays .

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