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Coal Miner 24th August 2008 07:31 PM

Shrewsbury Steam Rally.
 
The rally at Onslow Park had the excellent exhibits that we have come to expect, rain occurred during the Friday night leaving the site muddy this morning, but it was drying out by the afternoon, so the Grand Parade of Traction Engines went ahead as planned. Here are a few pictures.
http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/ttu/00004331.jpg
Gibbons and Robinson No. 959 of 1890.
http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/ttu/00004332.jpg
Fowler No. 14950 of 1917.
http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/ttu/00004333.jpg
Tasker No. 1296 of 1902.
Barry.

buzzy bee 24th August 2008 08:50 PM

Hi

So what is the footing like, I am going tomorow, and wondering what to wear on my feet.

Cheers

Dave

steamenginedriver 24th August 2008 09:10 PM

the ground is soft but has dried up brilliantly compared to this morning.


here's a photo i took about half an hour ago

http://www.elvastonsteamrally.co.uk/...8/onslow01.jpg

more to follow in a day or two

owen316 26th August 2008 09:22 AM

I was there, camped over from fri to sun.A good show,I go every year and it keeps getting better, had a few new engines Id not seen before there was wich was good. For some reason I just forgot to use my camera for most of the show,Iv got a video of 'General Gough' generating, and a few pictures of a half built 2" simplicity roller

davidnclare 26th August 2008 02:09 PM

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk//ttu/00004342.jpg

My two helpers setting up the wood plane, while waiting for more wood

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk//ttu/00004343.jpg

Mr Lawleys saw in action

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk//ttu/00004344.jpg

The view from the foot plate of a lovingly restored Foster

I am now looking to organize my 2009 diary, so if you would like to see my wood plane at your rally Please PM me. I will try to get the portable finished to drive it.

buzzy bee 26th August 2008 04:52 PM

Dave, I saw you driving your tractor and bench to your waggon, and then saw you in your waggon about to leave, both times I was unable to grab your attention, once as I was busy, and once as I was in the car.

Excellent rally though, tractor pulling was good, never seen that in real life before, working field was full of great machinery, (Spent most of my day in that field!), huge assortment of engines, just never got much time to see them.

Will have to camp next season, perhaps in my Ford, then I will have a little more time.

Cheers

Dave

The Rust Restorer 26th August 2008 10:10 PM

The first picture is of my son Joe Millington on his Fordson tractor puller placing Richard Hesbrook's engine in the line up. He thoroughly enjoyed himself towing the engines around and towing the loaded lowloaders in and out all week end. The heavyest I think were Len Crane's crane engine and Rob Henderson's BB1 ploughing engine on its low loader.
It would be great to see some more pictures of him towing as I was busy coupling him up and watching the public wern't in the way.
Cheers Robert

Timothy Hackworth Jr 27th August 2008 08:37 AM

I spy 8/10 and Auntie W!

Malc-Y 27th August 2008 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timothy Hackworth Jr (Post 32299)
I spy 8/10 and Auntie W!

Yes, I noticed them as well!

Malc. :cool:

weidner 27th August 2008 03:43 PM

OhmyGod - I am undone - send for the Grecian 2000 !

buzzy bee 27th August 2008 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Rust Restorer (Post 32290)
The first picture is of my son Joe Millington on his Fordson tractor puller placing Richard Hesbrook's engine in the line up. He thoroughly enjoyed himself towing the engines around and towing the loaded lowloaders in and out all week end. The heavyest I think were Len Crane's crane engine and Rob Henderson's BB1 ploughing engine on its low loader.
It would be great to see some more pictures of him towing as I was busy coupling him up and watching the public wern't in the way.
Cheers Robert

I too saw you loading a wagon at the end of the day, but again I was in the car driving past, so couldn't really get your attention!

Cheers

Dave

v8spider 5th September 2008 08:55 PM

This may just cost me a pint, bacon butty, pork bap,or a full english.

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/ttu/00004377.jpg

Mr BF was on rescue duty with his tractor

AndynMags 5th September 2008 09:14 PM

If that was mr swains tractor mr B F might have to share the bacon butty;)

Timothy Hackworth Jr 5th September 2008 09:28 PM

And someone else got stuck too...but I don't think the camera evidence is available here...phew!

Coal Miner 6th September 2008 06:32 PM

I think it was on the old site that there was a discussion of vehicle registration/number plates where it was concluded that road rollers and agricultural machines only required a rear plate, but could alternatively carry plates "on both sides of the vehicle...". I said that I had never seen the latter, but at Onslow Park there was a tractor with the number plates on both sides. I wish now that I had taken a photograph of it.
Barry.

steamboy 16th September 2008 07:00 PM

just chasing up with all my rally photos from the last month or so, and here is mine from onslow park. enjoy

friday on route 2 the rally on the second day from near kemble.
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friday evening
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sunday
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glen

Fowlers are the best 16th September 2008 09:52 PM

Smashing pictures Glen, why would anyone need to go to rallies that you go to? lol

That K and J Watkins Fowler roller would look good as a road loco I think though.

Some nice engines there which I have never seen before.

Thanks Glen,

Sam.

Pandora's Firebox 17th September 2008 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fowlers are the best (Post 34964)
Smashing pictures Glen, why would anyone need to go to rallies that you go to? lol

That K and J Watkins Fowler roller would look good as a road loco I think though.

Some nice engines there which I have never seen before.

Thanks Glen,

Sam.

I second that, they are fantastic pictures, thanks.

I was just thinking the same thing when I saw that roller in the pics - it looks far too original and "rollerish"! Maybe the two guys talking to the driver are negotiating a price with a view to buying and making a nice, dumpy looking, too tall, too short, completely wrong Showmans engine!!!

8_10 Brass Cleaner 17th September 2008 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandoras Firebox (Post 34998)
I second that, they are fantastic pictures, thanks.

I was just thinking the same thing when I saw that roller in the pics - it looks far too original and "rollerish"! Maybe the two guys talking to the driver are negotiating a price with a view to buying and making a nice, dumpy looking, too tall, too short, completely wrong Showmans engine!!!

'Bonnie' has never been anything but a very fine roller, a D2.

for info here is a very similar engine, but this time sold as a 'convertable' by Fowlers with both sets of parts. I gather the convertables had some extra diameter in the bores, and the order books in MERL at Reading bear this out. She would be identical to Bonnie in roller form.

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/pictur...e/HPIM3908.JPG

Front end is correct, i.e the bits that matter were supplied with this engine. The rear wheels are 'home made'. Certainly is dumpy!

v8spider 17th September 2008 05:55 PM

Bonnie is a lovely roller with loads of local history, can never imagine it if it ever got messed around with, I am sure it would never happen.


Certainly is dumpy!

What are we talking about The engine or one of its previous owners??;)

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/ttu/00004451.jpg

Lancashire Lad 17th September 2008 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v8spider (Post 35026)
Bonnie is a lovely roller with loads of local history, can never imagine it if it ever got messed around with, I am sure it would never happen.


Certainly is dumpy!

What are we talking about The engine or one of its previous owners??;)

And I thought it was only dogs that looked like there owners not owners looking like there engines....

Broken Firebar 17th September 2008 08:00 PM

Meeeeoooowww!

Surely you meant Purposeful, powerful, compact and handsome.

mark lewis 17th September 2008 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broken Firebar (Post 35051)
Meeeeoooowww!

Surely you meant Purposeful, powerful, compact and handsome.

I cant see a Burrell :p

Pandora's Firebox 18th September 2008 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8_10 Brass Cleaner (Post 35005)
'Bonnie' has never been anything but a very fine roller, a D2.

for info here is a very similar engine, but this time sold as a 'convertable' by Fowlers with both sets of parts. I gather the convertables had some extra diameter in the bores, and the order books in MERL at Reading bear this out. She would be identical to Bonnie in roller form.

Front end is correct, i.e the bits that matter were supplied with this engine. The rear wheels are 'home made'. Certainly is dumpy!

'Bonnie' really is quite bonnie.

The flywheel spoils the convertible, if it were a tad smaller, it possibly could look more acceptable, but then would not look as good in roller form. Rear wheels look good if they are home made - they appear to have pretty much followed the original design and kept them as rolls, rather than something completely bodged as we see on most showmans tractor conversions.

Broken Firebar 18th September 2008 09:46 PM

Paul

When you see the Fowler catalogue illustrating the D2 convertible as Queen of the Boyne it looks much more in proportion. The rear Traction Engine Wheels are the same size over the strakes as Q of B's home made ones are over the rubbers. This makes a massive difference.

Perhaps Rod Boesing or 8-10 can find the post with the catalogue picture shown?

Your reference to keeping them as rolls rather than bodged is misguided as Q of B was sold by Fowlers as a Convertible and is not a conversion and as such would have had sets of Rolls and Engine wheels supplied complete. Sadly the engine wheels were cut up as far as I can tell.

Hope that helps.

Roger 18th September 2008 10:46 PM

Catologue pictures Possibly Here, scroll down to page 32
http://www.tractiontalkforum.com/sho...wler+catalogue

Lancashire Lad 19th September 2008 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broken Firebar (Post 35051)
Meeeeoooowww!

Surely you meant Purposeful, powerful, compact and handsome.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark lewis (Post 35053)
I cant see a Burrell :p

You can both come back to reality any time you want :p

8_10 Brass Cleaner 19th September 2008 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broken Firebar (Post 35195)
Paul

When you see the Fowler catalogue illustrating the D2 convertible as Queen of the Boyne it looks much more in proportion. The rear Traction Engine Wheels are the same size over the strakes as Q of B's home made ones are over the rubbers. This makes a massive difference.

Perhaps Rod Boesing or 8-10 can find the post with the catalogue picture shown?

Hope that helps.

Your wish is my command, as a traction engine

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk//ttu/00004461.jpg

and as a roller

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk//ttu/00004462.jpg

Though this is from the same catalogue, keen observers will notice that it isn't the same engine, the roller is a long box variant.

Nevertheless, as Tony points out, you can see the larger diameter TE wheels as opposed to the hind rolls. Thats why 'Queen of the Boyne' looked odd.

Tony, Rod and I went hunting Fowler wheels in Northamptonshire one day. I had spied a pair of suitable Fowler rear centres leaning up against a wall whilst working in the Watford Gap area. I didn't remember exactly where they were, but we found them, and eventually Tony secured them. He was going to make some proper engine wheels for it, but then fell in love with something big and black......

Pandora's Firebox 20th September 2008 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broken Firebar (Post 35195)
Your reference to keeping them as rolls rather than bodged is misguided as Q of B was sold by Fowlers as a Convertible and is not a conversion and as such would have had sets of Rolls and Engine wheels supplied complete. Sadly the engine wheels were cut up as far as I can tell.

Ok thanks for the info, my knowledge of convertibles is somewhat limited!

I've probably not been very clear in my post - When I say bodged, I mean something that neither represents a 'roll' or a 'wheel' as I have seen on some conversions (not convertibles). I was just using conversions as a reference because this is where most home made wheels (and everything else for that matter) are bodged........ i mean made.


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