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chbeyer

30th January 2014 08:06 AM

Hollowell steamfair and "Zeche Hannover" Bochum (Germany)

chbeyer

30th January 2014 08:11 AM

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chbeyer

30th January 2014 08:44 AM

Zeche Hannover in Bochum

chbeyer

30th January 2014 08:49 AM

Arfursteam

30th January 2014 09:18 AM

Thanks for the great pics, nice to get a pre-season fix, thinking of great times to come. Hoefully the weather will improve by then.

Traction engine fan

30th January 2014 04:42 PM

Nice to see Aveling Roller 'Cor' I was lucky enough to have a steer on that one at the GDSF. a very nice engine.

roll on the summer!

gaffer

30th January 2014 04:54 PM

Hi looks like a nice show can you please give details of dates & location thanks

FosterGP6NHP

30th January 2014 06:39 PM

Whats the make of the brown coloured agricultural with the fabricated rear hubs?

Bosiboz

30th January 2014 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FosterGP6NHP (Post 290057)

Whats the make of the brown coloured agricultural with the fabricated rear hubs?

It's got Fowleresque cylinder and motion work. As for what it is I don't know - maybe a "bitza".

FosterGP6NHP

30th January 2014 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bosiboz (Post 290073)

It's got Fowleresque cylinder and motion work. As for what it is I don't know - maybe a "bitza".

Thats what i was thinking, Fowler/overhead valve aveling added to god knows what?. The front hubs look like normal cast jobs but the rears are fabrications.

chbeyer

30th January 2014 08:26 PM

Hi,

it's a Fowler indeed:

Hersteller: Fowler Magdeburg
Baujahr: 1896
Gewicht: 14 t
Eigentümer: Hans-Werner Dörich, Hanau, D

It has No 3875 and was initially built as a roller had a new boiler 1927

cheers
chris

Pedlers mate

30th January 2014 09:30 PM

Thankyou . . .

. . . for posting these photographs, Christopher. It's pretty dull, wet and cold here at the moment so it's good to put a bit of sunshine back into life. :D Was the German location at a colliery? There is evidence of a large fan on some of the photographs.

chbeyer

31st January 2014 07:16 AM

Hi Pedlers Mate et al,

thanks for the repsonse :)

The weather around here is not much different I suppose, the workshop is cold too :(

The meeting was on the area of an old coal mine/colliery (?) indeed it is called 'Zeche Hannover' located in the city of Bochum (not to be mistaken with the city of Hannover), located in the old mining area in germany called ruhrgebiet, you can find it here on a map:

http://osm.org/go/0GMNHV--?m=&node=240099833

The building in the back is a large fan for airing the mine shafts, the paddock was in there between the large engines - very nice atmosphere !

They have a gigantic steam hauling engine from 1893:

http://www.guenter-pilger.de/media_u...nnover_$11.jpg

The meeting was held on the first may weekend last year so that makes it 20 weeks or so to go ;)

It's bi-annual (?) so to speak only every second year, next time in 2015. There were roundabout 40 engines of all scales (and originals) going round the area. There was another steam event on the same weekend near to Berlin in Mildenberg (I have some pics from there from earlier years) So I think some engine owners had to decide where to go ...

Some links:

Museum homepage: http://www.lwl.org/LWL/Kultur/wim/po...glish_version/

Review off the 2013 meeting and a nice film about 2011 at the bottom of the page :

http://www.lwl.org/LWL/Kultur/wim/po...Dampffestival/

cheers
chris

chbeyer

31st January 2014 07:42 AM

More sunshine-memories on this 2008 pic, the fowler with Busso at the wood splitter

http://www.desy.de/~chbeyer/dampf/tt/DSC_0168.jpg

Pic is taken in a town called Medebach ...

cheers
chris

chbeyer

31st January 2014 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FosterGP6NHP (Post 290057)

Whats the make of the brown coloured agricultural with the fabricated rear hubs?

I think the fabricated rear hubs are not original, the engine was used as a stationary engine at the end of it's working life and todays owner fabricated new wheels for it to get it back to it's former designation ...

cheers
chris

Pedlers mate

31st January 2014 06:57 PM

Wow!

What a superb winding engine. The drum is a lot narrower than the usual winding engines in this country. It looks like it may have used some sort of endless rope system. Do you know if it was a sloping drift or a vertical shaft? Good to see that the engine is run from time to time. If you are in this country again there are some preserved colliery winding engines that you may be interested in seeing. Thankyou for the information about the museum, I must try to visit it some day.

chbeyer

31st January 2014 07:37 PM

Hey,

glad you like the engine, it is quite majestic to see it run indeed :)

There are some more pics here:

http://www.guenter-pilger.de/ruhrgebiet_13.htm

And a video here:

http://www.mypott.de/media/view/key/...category_id/22

The drum is just deflecting the rope, there is always one basket going up and one going down as far as I understand the system ...

The shaft is going straight down for 750 m !

cheers
chris

chbeyer

31st January 2014 09:31 PM

did some 'research' ;)

They invented the 'koepe-foerderung' for the shaft in bochum, it's illustrated here:

http://www.lwl.org/LWL/Kultur/wim/po...pe_Foerderung/

cheers
chris

Pedlers mate

1st February 2014 04:58 PM

A number of Koepe winders were used in this country but I've only ever seen elelctrically-powered ones. Fascinating thread, thankyou.

chbeyer

2nd February 2014 08:38 AM

The twin-valve engines with koepe-system were kind of standard around here. After koepe-system prooved to be effective, older machines were replaced or at least older winding drums were replaced.

Here is a quite complete foto listing of the still existing winding-machines in germany (sorry site is in german but mainly pictures so it might be interesting anyway)

http://www.minister-achenbach.de/dam...rmaschine.html

Another one in recklinghausen:

http://www.maschinenmuseum.de/halle/Reck.htm

Another one in Bleicherode

http://www.maschinenmuseum.de/halle/Salzberg.htm

And a very late triple cylinder steam engine with 4.000 NHP unfortunately just one pic of this engine...

http://www.maschinenmuseum.de/halle/SALZB2.HTM

cheers
chris

chbeyer

4th February 2014 04:18 PM

4" Fowler showmans

Hi,

as someone PM'ed about the 4" Fowler showmans on the german fair pics I asked Busso for some more infos and pics. The showmans is build and owned by a dutch guy and it was it's first presentation to the public. It is build to an excellent standard I think, I will post some more detail pics in a minute, for now three pics from 'Zech Hannover':

http://www.desy.de/~chbeyer/dampf/tt...nnover_058.JPG

http://www.desy.de/~chbeyer/dampf/tt...nnover_059.JPG

http://www.desy.de/~chbeyer/dampf/tt...nnover_060.JPG

cheers
chris

chbeyer

4th February 2014 04:25 PM

woodypup59

4th February 2014 04:53 PM

Glad you enjoyed Hollowell.

Same again this year ????

chbeyer

4th February 2014 05:35 PM

yes, really liked it a lot ! Though it was a really hot day, too hot for my dogs and family to be precise but nevertheless very nice steamfair feeling and who would complain about sunshine !

Unfortunately I can not afford a family holiday in england every year I'm afraid, so it's dorset this year without family and some meetings on the continent (dordrecht for ex) looking very forward to that too.

Hope you keep the good spirit on hollowell steamfair and maybe I am able to come back 2015 !!!

cheers
chris

calimods

7th February 2014 11:12 PM

hello there, just wondered if you have anymore photo's of the miniature S4, Standard Sentinel and Burrell Wagon. Never seen any of these wagons before and don't know of any other S4 models, Thanks for the other photo's, Brian

chbeyer

8th February 2014 07:13 PM

Hi,

the owner of the sentinel is a friend of mine untill reently he had a complete build thread online on his HP but it's offline at the moment. I will ask him if it will be back online or if I can post some of his pics here ...

cheers
chris

chbeyer

9th February 2014 08:26 AM

The S4 owner is about to relaunch his website with a superb build thread of his sentinel, I will post it when it's back online !

Sorry I have no more pics from the burrell wagon :(

Untill then some pics:

http://www.desy.de/~chbeyer/dampf/tt/castle_02.jpg

http://www.desy.de/~chbeyer/dampf/tt/castle_01.jpg

http://www.desy.de/~chbeyer/dampf/tt/castle06.jpg

http://www.desy.de/~chbeyer/dampf/tt/castle05.jpg

http://www.desy.de/~chbeyer/dampf/tt/castle04.jpg

cheers
chris

calimods

10th February 2014 01:14 PM

thanks very much for the reply and photo's, Brian

avelingporter

25th February 2014 04:36 PM

Good to see some European engines for a change.

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