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honey 1st August 2013 08:17 PM

Pickering traction engine rally
 
Been to the rally today after an absence of a couple of years, and what a surprise firstly there were no programmes available, and there was no coal available so the majority of engines were not in steam.
There were also rumours that this years show may be the last held on the Pickering showground, as the current owners want to build log cabins on the showground and turn it into a holiday village.

Paul30013 1st August 2013 11:28 PM

Cheap to get in then?

Paul.

top trucker 2nd August 2013 06:04 AM

Was just speaking to a friend on site, apparently ground has been sold to centre parcs. No coal on site, maybe getting some tonight or tomorrow and they haven't even finished building the public foot bridge, sounds like there could be more drama to come from Pickering

BUNGLE 2nd August 2013 12:14 PM

Just heard on another forum, that the coal is unlikely to arrive as the coalman has not been paid, the footbridge has been finished (looks like they have been paid), BUT the car park field rent has not been paid, so its a bridge to nowhere !! And the one lone singer in the bar last night packed up at 10 when they got feed up. Also the models are 'on strike' as they only get paid coal, which of course is not there !! Also apparently some of the full size are making noises about leaving too. Happy days !

steamy1 2nd August 2013 12:23 PM

I wonder is the "usual suspect" still involved?

tiny 2nd August 2013 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by steamy1 (Post 266032)
I wonder is the "usual suspect" still involved?

states so on their website!

Rod Boesing 2nd August 2013 01:34 PM

I'm off to cearney on the morrow, at least I know there will be some engines to look at and there's plenty of coal !. :D



:)

Robert The Bruce 2nd August 2013 02:12 PM

I live in Pickering and as I stated on the Admission Price post, South Cerney was always 1st choice. The people of Pickering who thought I was mad to travel over 500 mile round trip when an event on my door step may still think I'm mad but I feel I can justify my choice much more easily now.

burrellshowmans 2nd August 2013 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BUNGLE (Post 266029)
Just heard on another forum, that the coal is unlikely to arrive as the coalman has not been paid, the footbridge has been finished (looks like they have been paid), BUT the car park field rent has not been paid, so its a bridge to nowhere !! And the one lone singer in the bar last night packed up at 10 when they got feed up. Also the models are 'on strike' as they only get paid coal, which of course is not there !! Also apparently some of the full size are making noises about leaving too. Happy days !

The coal was dropped off this morning

weidner 2nd August 2013 04:35 PM

Looks as if a ' Pickering ' may become a byword on here .

Aveling8727 2nd August 2013 09:36 PM

Plenty of coal, engines and happy owners here at Cerney today. Brilliant rally, brilliant atmosphere, and organised by an Engine owner who understands how a steam rally should be set up and run. Everyone boycott Pickering and head to Gloustershire!!

Aveling8727 2nd August 2013 09:40 PM

A few pictures I've took on my phone just to show everyone what they are missing.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ps4361e1eb.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ps24e9847c.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ps90cd6c23.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...pscadf0f7c.jpg

tiny 2nd August 2013 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weidner (Post 266054)
Looks as if a ' Pickering ' may become a byword on here .

or a bye bye word!:)

woody2 3rd August 2013 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weidner (Post 266054)
Looks as if a ' Pickering ' may become a byword on here .

pikeing (cr) (=copy right)?












sorry best i could dothumbdown

weidner 3rd August 2013 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weidner (Post 266054)
Looks as if a ' Pickering ' may become a byword on here .

In the sense of ' To do a Pickering ' , or ' A right Pickering ' etc .

Bentley Blower 5th August 2013 02:20 PM

Just got back from pikeyring today...... I did enjoy the show despite the best efforts of the organisers....... It was a bit disorganised to say the least, and seems to get worse every year. No field for us to camp in when we arrived, left crammed up in a small compound for 3 hours, lots of frayed tempers.
One of the security guards said there was no money in the kitty for arm bands or programmes...... I find it hard to believe that the event doesnt make money. What do they do with it all?
As has already been stated it will apparently be the last show there, and rumour has it that it may (or may not) move to Malton.
I'll be sorry to see it end.

fosterman 5th August 2013 05:02 PM

It would be interesting to see what site they have in mind at Malton, I guess the town could do with a boost not sure it would have the same road run potential! would be good if it was near the railway as the Scarbrough flyer runs through but I just cant think of a site big enough after living there eight years


fosterman

notyalc 5th August 2013 08:14 PM

Don't know what all the fuss was about.
Had 4 good days driving a saw bench, great road run to Thornton Le Dale in one of the best Fodens around.
Looking forward to an easy weekend at Driffield next weekend.

chief polisher 5th August 2013 08:57 PM

We all had a good time at Pickering, and really enjoyed the roading to Driffield this morning.

Regards

Matt

wms345 8th August 2013 11:11 AM


steamsec 9th August 2013 12:21 PM

To be fair to Simon at least he is willing to give it a go. Its very easy to criticize from behind a keyboard, why not step up and give it a go, I am sure you will have a very different opinion. 1000s came to Pickering, some may be interested enough to get further involved. As an outsider looking in thats what you need, I have made the comment many times this year that rallies target audiences are literally dying out. Maybe a bit of support rather than criticism to people like Simon will keep as many rallies as possible commercially viable

craigctt 9th August 2013 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by steamsec (Post 266967)
To be fair to Simon at least he is willing to give it a go. Its very easy to criticize from behind a keyboard, why not step up and give it a go, I am sure you will have a very different opinion. 1000s came to Pickering, some may be interested enough to get further involved. As an outsider looking in thats what you need, I have made the comment many times this year that rallies target audiences are literally dying out. Maybe a bit of support rather than criticism to people like Simon will keep as many rallies as possible commercially viable

I really don't know where to start with my reply on this tread. My late father and my late uncle were at the very first steam rally at Pickering. (probably Grandad was there aswell). I think it was 1954 or 1956 I'm not sure now what year they told me. I for one was not born at the time. During my lifetime I have been to a fare few Pickering Steam Rally's. I do remember when it was on the main road from Kirby Moorside to Pickering, Thonton lee dale road. I also remember the Castle Howard rally's. Simon in my opinion always did a good job when he got involved years ago, but now it has all gone to pot. I know Simon has had his problems with business in the last few years as have we all, but 2009 did it for me. I still miss going up north to Pickering, but Unfortunatley it will not happen again for me (once bitten, twice shy). I did talk to Simon after the 2009 incident and he blamed it on Arthur Harris. I then talked to Arthur Harris, who blamed it on Simon. (Who was right, I don't know). What really pi&&ed me off is that we used over £500 in derv for the lowloader, £120 in Maraidh,s camper and I spent around £1200 at the show. Certain people did get paid for there atendance, but we were not one of them. (there was a record crowd in 2009 with the camping also full). I now go to South Cerney, its a good rally, the money isn't great but we enjoy ourselves, we are always made welcome and we always get paid. I think if Pickering is to continue, Simon needs to get someone along side who is respected in the steam ferturnaty with good standing such as , Graham Atkinson, Richard Preston etc etc. to make it work and continue. Simon has done a lot for the rally, but what I have been told over the last few years, if its not sorted before long, it will be finished..........ps, steamsec I'm not criticising behind a keyboard, I would say this to Simon in person.

leedsdick 9th August 2013 10:22 PM

Here here thers always a good crowd but there's always a good magician when it comes to pay time

Steamhead21 10th August 2013 07:50 AM

I used to attended Pickering with the caravan as a member of the public for a period of about 10 years starting when it was run by the events office. Stopped going wit caravan about 3 years ago due to car failling MOT.
The first few years were great loads of engines well layed out showfield etc.
It seems to have gone down hill last few years agree maybe needs help with organisation from some Steam enthusiasts.

Pandora's Firebox 12th August 2013 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigctt (Post 267032)
I really don't know where to start with my reply on this tread. My late father and my late uncle were at the very first steam rally at Pickering. (probably Grandad was there aswell). I think it was 1954 or 1956 I'm not sure now what year they told me. I for one was not born at the time. During my lifetime I have been to a fare few Pickering Steam Rally's. I do remember when it was on the main road from Kirby Moorside to Pickering, Thonton lee dale road. I also remember the Castle Howard rally's.

The recent 'Pickering' rallies should not be compared with the early rallies, the only thing they had in common was the name of the nearby town. Duncombe Park, which is still held a few miles up the road, stems from the same origins as the early rallies and is still a damn good show.

If this years Pickering rally was the last, then a move to a new site could/should mean a new, clean start for the organisers and a chance to get their act together and put on a good show.

tonyw8 19th August 2013 11:10 AM

We've been attending this rally for many years now and 2013 was the last. Whether it goes ahead or not.
We came up from Welland to Pickering. Didn't camp on the rally field due to issues in previous years. We camped in Hinderwell and took in two days of the show. Not an absolute shambles, but getting real close. Many of the traders more than unhappy.
£10 to get in. No Programme. No cocessions for seniors. Shame the rally fell into such grubby hands. South Cerney 2014 without doubt.


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