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davidje 10th July 2011 08:10 PM

Cheshire Steam Fair 2011
 
We went today, the weather held up and it turned out to be a great day. We are always grateful for the hospitality we are afforded by the engine owners when we attend rallies. Today we met Map Reader and his family for the first time. The highlight for me was the Foden Wagon in WD livery. We spent some time with Buzzy Bee comparing the differences between it and Cheshire Pride and Dave found quite a few.


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ianmorris1960 10th July 2011 08:19 PM

good to see the 4" Case is back on the field

Ian

mat777 11th July 2011 12:28 AM

David, were you by any chance one of the group there when the WD Foden Owner demonstrated the interesting worm mechanism for raising the bed, and showed said group the water tank ( i heard something about breathers mentioned)

if so, I was the guy in the green raincoat standing behind you - if i had known I would have said hello!

here are a few of my better pics (sorry about the quality but I had to rely on my iphone camera today)

http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/h...eshire%202011/

for some reason photobucket has put them all out of sequence but there are a few good traction ones in there, especially the closeups

davidje 11th July 2011 08:08 AM

No, I had moved on by then. From your video it looks like the 'Cheshire Pride' lads having a closer look. I'll check my photo's looking for a man in a green mac.

8_10 Brass Cleaner 11th July 2011 08:21 AM

Does the back on Gleaveie's Foden tip?

The dint in the wheel rim always makes me smile. Who says cast Iron doesn't bend?

The tipping gear on Mr Wilkinsons Foden (the WD one) is fabulous, it is so low geared that if you want to raise the body by an inch it is easy.

I suspect the group looking at the water tank were discussing how to get water in the tank, the original as built arrangement on the WD Foden is only via the White's water lifter. This means you need to pour the water in the suction connection on the lifter. So if the 'water man's' hose is bigger than a garden hose it is very difficult to fill up without spillage, and this is made worse as the tank doesnt appear to breath very well (let the displaced air about).

What it wants is a 3 inch hole in the top of the tank, bunged up with a threaded plug that is all hidden when the body is down. You would have to raise the body to fill up, but it would be far easier.

The Pirate 11th July 2011 01:19 PM

Alan Thwaites's GND looks very shiny in it's new colour scheme.
Any more pics of it??

buzzy bee 11th July 2011 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8_10 Brass Cleaner (Post 167919)
Does the back on Gleaveie's Foden tip?

The dint in the wheel rim always makes me smile. Who says cast Iron doesn't bend?

The tipping gear on Mr Wilkinsons Foden (the WD one) is fabulous, it is so low geared that if you want to raise the body by an inch it is easy.

I suspect the group looking at the water tank were discussing how to get water in the tank, the original as built arrangement on the WD Foden is only via the White's water lifter. This means you need to pour the water in the suction connection on the lifter. So if the 'water man's' hose is bigger than a garden hose it is very difficult to fill up without spillage, and this is made worse as the tank doesnt appear to breath very well (let the displaced air about).

What it wants is a 3 inch hole in the top of the tank, bunged up with a threaded plug that is all hidden when the body is down. You would have to raise the body to fill up, but it would be far easier.

Hi

We were discussing just that, the filling through the suction end, you have to go very slow as to not allow it to back up, and we were saying an inlet in the tank top to fill through would be advantagous. To save the bother of belting up and lifting the body to fill the tank with water, a simple trap door in the rear bed floor is all that is needed. Can't comment on it breathing badly, but it has a fair sized breather on it.

There are a few nice differences, but I will leave them to be guessed at, don't want to spoil the fun, Some more obvious than others! hehe

The body on Cheshire Pride was at one time a tipper yes, but is fixed now, and it has been shortened too.

Cheers

Dave

davidje 11th July 2011 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Pirate (Post 167939)
Alan Thwaites's GND looks very shiny in it's new colour scheme.
Any more pics of it??

Here are a few more:

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tti/10/259_1059.jpg


http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tti/10/259_1060.jpg


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mat777 11th July 2011 10:23 PM

I too was having a look at that GND and it was rather smart indeed. I also noticed that during the arena parades, the young driver seemed to look almost bored !!
I assume that after a while the novelty of driving an engine wears off compared to the work of keeping it in steam :p

The Pirate 12th July 2011 12:03 AM

Thank you Mr Bloor.
Another of the engines I had a small part to do with. Nice to see the finished result.

8_10 Brass Cleaner 12th July 2011 07:58 AM

I think the name 'Snowball' suited it better!

Foden Fan 12th July 2011 08:39 AM

What happen to that Foden TE copper(brass?) top on the funnel/chimney? Great photos, love em.

davidje 12th July 2011 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Foden Fan (Post 168036)
What happen to that Foden TE copper(brass?) top on the funnel/chimney? Great photos, love em.

He only puts it on just before going into the ring to make sure it looks its best. That engine is always kept well. I've said it many times before but in my humble opinion, it's one of the best looking engines on the rally field today. It looks 'balanced' i.e. well proportioned and the lads who run it are a great bunch.

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tti/10/259_1065.jpg

Broken Firebar 12th July 2011 05:08 PM

Me and Sam's Boy both cut our teeth on King George V, and it took me to my wedding! Perhaps that is why I am so into polishing.... ;)

Smashing engine if you ask me!

suzukiman 12th July 2011 05:58 PM

I like the photographic reflection on the copper. thumbsup


Cheers


Tez

bjwlancashire 12th July 2011 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8_10 Brass Cleaner (Post 167919)

I suspect the group looking at the water tank were discussing how to get water in the tank, the original as built arrangement on the WD Foden is only via the White's water lifter. This means you need to pour the water in the suction connection on the lifter. So if the 'water man's' hose is bigger than a garden hose it is very difficult to fill up without spillage, and this is made worse as the tank doesnt appear to breath very well (let the displaced air about).

What it wants is a 3 inch hole in the top of the tank, bunged up with a threaded plug that is all hidden when the body is down. You would have to raise the body to fill up, but it would be far easier.

It took a while to fill up the WD Foden from the Runcor Model Boat Club's boating pool using the lifter prior to the Saturday eveneing road run. Richard Metcalf's Clayton and Shuttleworth filled the tender in less than a minute but the Foden took four or five minutes, probably due to the breathing issue you mention.

And yes, we did get the water filled back up on Sunday morning, didn't want an angry mob :D

Brian

ruston-tom 13th July 2011 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mat777 (Post 168007)
I too was having a look at that GND and it was rather smart indeed. I also noticed that during the arena parades, the young driver seemed to look almost bored !!
I assume that after a while the novelty of driving an engine wears off compared to the work of keeping it in steam :p

Perhaps it is because although the Aveling is the new Toy he is used to a far superior model of Tractor to play on! Jack is on here as Ruston-Boy so perhaps he might comment!

Thomas


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