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Steam Scenes 27th June 2011 07:20 PM

The President returns to Bressingham
 
Bressingham held a special event over the weekend to celebrate their 50th Anniversary, the star attraction being the return of Burrell 2789, The President which was of course owned by the museum for many years before it's sale and overhaul a number of years ago:

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tth/11...m/DSC_5025.jpg

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tth/11...m/DSC_5165.jpg


The museum had two of their engines in steam, Garrett Tractor 34641, Bunty and Burrell Roller 3993 Buster:

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tth/11...m/DSC_5362.jpg

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tth/11...m/DSC_5128.jpg

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tth/11...m/DSC_5043.jpg

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tth/11...m/DSC_5421.jpg


Jonathan Wheeler attended with Ruston Hornsby 113043, Oliver which was engaged in running a threshing drum:

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tth/11...m/DSC_5542.jpg


Mike Dreelan left around 4.30pm, with a 12 hour return trip to Aberdeen ahead of them(!):

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tth/11...m/DSC_5731.jpg

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tth/11...m/DSC_5826.jpg


Also, some pictures the engines in the museum which has improved radically since I last went about 20 years ago:

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tth/11...m/DSC_5567.jpg

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tth/11...m/DSC_5570.jpg

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tth/11...m/DSC_5805.jpg

A really good day out.

nicktrex 27th June 2011 07:45 PM

Is it just me or has Mike repainted / polished / re-lined The President?

Sure looks mighty shiny and the lining on the wheels looks different, maybe it's just been awhile since I last saw it in person (he needs to bring more of his engines down to Kemble or Dorset :P)

Steam Scenes 27th June 2011 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by nicktrex (Post 166132)
Is it just me or has Mike repainted / polished / re-lined The President?

I think they are just good at cleaning them up in Aberdeen. I was told that Goliath hasn't been repainted in his ownership, they just cleaned up the old paint work, it looked absolutely pristine at GDSF last year. It was also very sunny yesterday which made it shine even more.

nicktrex 27th June 2011 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Steam Scenes (Post 166163)
I think they are just good at cleaning them up in Aberdeen. I was told that Goliath hasn't been repainted in his ownership, they just cleaned up the old paint work, it looked absolutely pristine at GDSF last year. It was also very sunny yesterday which made it shine even more.

They really do set very high standards! I'll put it out there and say I have never seen any of his engines which don't look pristine!

rathopete 27th June 2011 09:41 PM

There was some squad polishing both The President and Goliath at Castle Fraser, each morning.

8_10 Brass Cleaner 28th June 2011 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Steam Scenes (Post 166163)
I think they are just good at cleaning them up in Aberdeen. I was told that Goliath hasn't been repainted in his ownership, they just cleaned up the old paint work, it looked absolutely pristine at GDSF last year. It was also very sunny yesterday which made it shine even more.

I wonder if it has been touched up and re varnished?. Somewhat of a forgotten art.

I caught the lagging of the Horses Friend with the front wheel when John took it to Kemble. I was absoloutly gutted about it as it made a real mess of the paint.

By the next rally out John had got Bob to it, who had touched in the paint, and revarnished the front section of cladding. Other than looking a little more shiny than the rest of the engine you would never had known what I had done. Three or four events later the shine had dulled a bit and it was completely un-noticeable.

notyalc 28th June 2011 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 8_10 Brass Cleaner (Post 166191)
I wonder if it has been touched up and re varnished?. Somewhat of a forgotten art.

I doubt it. The paintwork is only 3 years old................ In 30 years time it may need some attention! I think you are seeing the results of lots of elbow grease and polish with plenty of silicone in it.

8_10 Brass Cleaner 28th June 2011 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by notyalc (Post 166231)
I doubt it. The paintwork is only 3 years old................ In 30 years time it may need some attention! I think you are seeing the results of lots of elbow grease and polish with plenty of silicone in it.

I think the paint on Goliath is considerably older than 3 years old.

I wouldnt be at all suprised if it was actually older than me.

notyalc 28th June 2011 11:49 AM

Apologies, thought you referring to President, subject of the thread....

notyalc 28th June 2011 11:53 AM

As far as I know, Goliath was painted by Alan Painter for Frank Lythgoe. Looking at it at Castle Fraser it has been touched up in places, some of it looks new- particularly the normal areas of black, smokebox, chimney firebox sides. The rest looks well cared for and has a nice patina to it. Surely testament to a good job in the first place?

8_10 Brass Cleaner 28th June 2011 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notyalc (Post 166237)
As far as I know, Goliath was painted by Alan Painter for Frank Lythgoe. Looking at it at Castle Fraser it has been touched up in places, some of it looks new- particularly the normal areas of black, smokebox, chimney firebox sides. The rest looks well cared for and has a nice patina to it. Surely testament to a good job in the first place?

Undoubtedly a good job in the first place, the patina is lovely. Did Alan repaint the whole lot or just tidy it up?

notyalc 28th June 2011 12:02 PM

Don't know. I would have thought that Frank had everything done properly not a touch up.

Steam Scenes 28th June 2011 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by notyalc (Post 166243)
Don't know. I would have thought that Frank had everything done properly not a touch up.

I was reading last night Frank Lythgoe debuted the restored engine in the mid-1970's, I assume this was the last time it was painted.

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/pictur...1_DSC_2553.jpg

8_10 Brass Cleaner 28th June 2011 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Steam Scenes (Post 166248)
I was reading last night Frank Lythgoe debuted the restored engine in the mid-1970's, I assume this was the last time it was painted.

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/pictur...1_DSC_2553.jpg

Hence why I suggested that the bulk of the paint may be older than me!

Was it debuted at a party in Lancashire by any chance?

nicktrex 28th June 2011 03:20 PM

Other than the Canopy it does look identical to how it did in 1986 when this photo was taken.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/167/4...1c56dc21_o.jpg

I found it on Flickr so all credits go to Jonnie3.

mugglesquop 28th June 2011 03:24 PM

different dynamo (or paint). also logo on Belly Tank is different

8_10 Brass Cleaner 28th June 2011 03:28 PM

The Cockrell was on all of Mr Lythgoes engines.

nicktrex 28th June 2011 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mugglesquop (Post 166278)
different dynamo (or paint). also logo on Belly Tank is different

I think it's merely the lining on the dynamo which has changed, but that could we have happened in Mr Lythgoe's ownership?

As Hedd has mentioned, the Cockerel appeared on all of Frank Lythgoe's engines and I think Mike Dreelan has that emblem on most of his engines too? (or atleast on Dolphin & Goliath)

On closer look, both Dolphin & Goliath have the same emblem however Goliath has a blue ribbon around it and Dolphin has, most likely, gold leaf around it.

manxman 29th June 2011 04:19 PM

will woodward was involved in painting Goliath some where down the line

8_10 Brass Cleaner 29th June 2011 06:00 PM

I've just been looking at some of my 1980's Bishops Castle photos.

I recoln that the bulk of the paint date from the mid 1970's when it was painted at Johnsons of Banks by Bob Horthornwaite.

The canopy has certainly seen some attention, it is a different dynamo, and of course Mr Dreelan has his crest on the tank.

But the rest looks pretty much identical to the paint job in my photos. No doubt with touching up and varnish. It certainly is beatifully kept.

Didn't Alan Painter do Cock of the North?.

ethel 29th June 2011 10:22 PM

Alan Painter and Will Woodward painted Burrell tractor Cock of the North and also Fowler King Carnival for Frank Lythgoe in about 1998/1999. After painting, the Burrell tractor was not steamed again until purchased by Mr Dreelan.Following these jobs Alan and Will painted a Burrell roller for me which we recieved back at boxing day run 1999 and first steamed it at home on New Years day 2000.

ethel 29th June 2011 10:38 PM

I meant also to say that as far as I am aware Goliath has not had a full repaint since it was done at Banks and exhibited in public at the famous Banks Easter Steam Party.I think this was either 1975 or 76, also about this same time Tasker tractor Horses freind was restored by Jack Johnson and his team. I have somwhere a cutting which sites "David meets Goliath" referring to the two engines attending the steam party.


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