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Steam Scenes 18th April 2011 06:50 PM

Thursford Founders Day 2011
 
I went to Thursford Founders Day yesterday, nothing changes much there but I always find something to look at and the children like it - the chap operating the rides let them have unlimited goes on the gallopers, gondolas and childrens gallopers.

A few pictures that I took:

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Burrell Scenic Showmans Road Locomotive 3827 - Victory


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Burrell Showmans Road Locomotive 3075 - Alexandra


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Burrell Scenic Showmans Road Locomotive 2780 - King Edward VII


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Aveling & Porter Road Locomotive 9149


http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tth/11...t/DSC_8327.jpg
Burrell Showmans Road Locomotive 3200 - Unity


http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tth/11...t/DSC_8363.jpg
Aveling & Porter Road Roller 10324


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Aveling & Porter Road Roller 12181


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Burrell Road Roller 3850


http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tth/11...t/DSC_8390.jpg
I am not sure which engine this is, any suggestions?


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Aveling & Porter Road Roller 10785


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Aveling & Porter Road Roller 11918


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Aveling & Porter Road Roller 11322 - Castra


http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tth/11...t/DSC_8406.jpg
Burrell Road Roller 3850


http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tth/11...t/DSC_8410.jpg
Aveling & Porter Road Roller 10415


http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tth/11...t/DSC_8425.jpg
Burrell Scenic Showmans Road Locomotive 3827 - Victory


http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tth/11...t/DSC_8431.jpg
Garrett Showmans Tractor 33902 - Medina


http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tth/11...t/DSC_8482.jpg
Burrell Scenic Showmans Road Locomotive 2780 - King Edward VII


http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tth/11...t/DSC_8486.jpg
Burrell Scenic Showmans Road Locomotive 3827 - Victory

B&WLR Harry 18th April 2011 08:05 PM

That Burrell Gold Medal convertible really is something special! And I'm sure that others will disagree but I feel that Thursford is the best place for it, it's not going to be messed about with or 'tarted up' with new paint thank god!

UJ2225 19th April 2011 12:10 PM

Must confess I didnt bother going this year as its the same old same old.

Jim S

hercules1912 21st April 2011 09:29 PM

Still evidence of soot on Victory's footplate, when was she last steamed? Lee

Roger 21st April 2011 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by UJ2225 (Post 158061)
Must confess I didnt bother going this year as its the same old same old.

Jim S

Isn't that the point of it?. Must admit I haven't been yet, something to look forwrd to;)

sparkright 21st April 2011 11:09 PM

At least the engines look loved, even the rollers look like someone's given them a once over.

I'd never noticed the odd wheels on that compound roller 11918, are the rears Aveling Barford??

UJ2225 21st April 2011 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Roger (Post 158360)
Isn't that the point of it?. Must admit I haven't been yet, something to look forwrd to;)

Seeing those lovely old engines stuffed and mounted and those unfortunate ones with penguins, pink panthers and vicous looking knomes on the footplate doesnt warrant a tank of diesel in my eyes.

Each to their own..

Jim S

lampwortroy 21st April 2011 11:25 PM

It is a great place to visit no matter what time of year. I went to one of their Christmas Parties some years ago and spent the whole evening in a corner in deep conversation with Harry Lee and other old steam men. Trouble is, it has changed from the way I remember it in the early 1970s when George would open up the shed about 4pm on Sundays and give a free organ recital in return for a donation to a cancer charity. They were the great days at Thursford.

UJ2225 22nd April 2011 07:15 AM

I too remember the great days of the 70"s at Thursford.... without doubt the best days and a bit of live steam too.

Jim S

the highwayman 22nd April 2011 08:42 AM

In my oppinion it is a great shame that the unrestored engines layed around for 30 odd years unsheeted outside before being brought in and given a good clean and polish, just imagine how good they would look if they'd been shedded and kept clean when they finished work.

lampwortroy 22nd April 2011 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by the highwayman (Post 158393)
In my oppinion it is a great shame that the unrestored engines layed around for 30 odd years unsheeted outside before being brought in and given a good clean and polish, just imagine how good they would look if they'd been shedded and kept clean when they finished work.

But that reasoning is not just for Thursford. There are many cases of neglect through lack of time or money to restore engines throughout the country. Jack Wakefield, Tom Varley, Parky Bates, Tom Tate, Beamish Museum, and many others all qualify for your 30 odd years rule. But we have them all to thank that these neglected engines survived at all. George Cushing was one of these men with the pipe dream of restoring everything that they bought. Thanks to them we have the wealth of road steam in preservation today.

Garrett58 22nd April 2011 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by UJ2225 (Post 158382)
I too remember the great days of the 70"s at Thursford.... without doubt the best days and a bit of live steam too.

Jim S

Must agree Jim, those early days were better. Having been around that much earlier my recollections are of the 1950/60's with both Victory and Medina attending Rayham Days events. I recall the late Jack Shuttlewood whom had driven Edgar Shone's Burrell Special Scienic 3884 up from Braintree, he together with Billy Jeans steamed Victory through from Thursford. His remarks were-not over complimentary as they had problems with both the pump and injector.

It seem a great shame that a few of the engines are not steamable, to me its of the old style museums with exhibits stuffed and mounted. The most inportant thing being they have been saved for all to see and enjoy.

the highwayman 22nd April 2011 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by lampwortroy (Post 158395)
But that reasoning is not just for Thursford. There are many cases of neglect through lack of time or money to restore engines throughout the country. Jack Wakefield, Tom Varley, Parky Bates, Tom Tate, Beamish Museum, and many others all qualify for your 30 odd years rule. But we have them all to thank that these neglected engines survived at all. George Cushing was one of these men with the pipe dream of restoring everything that they bought. Thanks to them we have the wealth of road steam in preservation today.

Not disputing that for one moment, a visit to my yard will show me up for having pipedreams, one day I will have to have a clear out, it just seems to me a shame that the unrestored engines deteriated for so long.

island steamer 23rd April 2011 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the highwayman (Post 158393)
In my oppinion it is a great shame that the unrestored engines layed around for 30 odd years unsheeted outside before being brought in and given a good clean and polish, just imagine how good they would look if they'd been shedded and kept clean when they finished work.

When i visited Thursford i dont remember the engines not being sheeted. That was the thing about it, you couldnt see what engines they were because of the sheeting. I must admit that it wont be the same now that the engines across the road have gone, there was always that bit of excitement you might see something not seen before.

the highwayman 23rd April 2011 05:21 PM

Thinking back, my first visit to Thursford would have been in 1973, in those days the museum was in a Nissen hut type of building that was situated 'across the road' going by the location of the phone box, back then the museum had no phone and you could sometimes see George Cushing using the phonebox just outside the gateway, at this time there were about 15-20 engines, predominately Aveling Rollers to the left hand side of the museum, none of which were sheeted. On one occasion the gate opposite was open and it was possible to see either 'Alexandra' or 'unity' in the yard, this was the only time that I have seen a derelict Showmans engine. When the present museum was built in the early 'eighties there was a great investment in tarpaulin and the derelict engines were sheeted.

UJ2225 23rd April 2011 10:25 PM

Absolutely right Steve, as a young lad I remember seeing many unsheeted engines in the yard, thankfully as you say they were later to be sheeted up although not before soem of the engines became quite a state.

Credit where Credit is due though as George save many from being torched.

Jim

lampwortroy 23rd April 2011 10:29 PM

My biding memory of Thursford around 1972 was a huge plougher - possibly an aveling, without a sheet and a tree growing out of it!

C.M.FANCE 14th November 2021 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Garrett58 (Post 158396)
Must agree Jim, those early days were better. Having been around that much earlier my recollections are of the 1950/60's with both Victory and Medina attending Rayham Days events. I recall the late Jack Shuttlewood whom had driven Edgar Shone's Burrell Special Scienic 3884 up from Braintree, he together with Billy Jeans steamed Victory through from Thursford. His remarks were-not over complimentary as they had problems with both the pump and injector.

It seem a great shame that a few of the engines are not steamable, to me its of the old style museums with exhibits stuffed and mounted. The most inportant thing being they have been saved for all to see and enjoy.

Billy Jeanes of Wrentham helped a lot of local engine owners. He died in 1983.

The Burrell roller and Marshall roller ( 78108 ) had a ticket until quite recently. When were the others last steamed ?

Allbo 14th November 2021 08:48 AM

Anyone old enough to remember Harry Bushell at Thursford? He lived in a cottage in Cushing's yard and was an engine driver most of his life. I was very young when I first met him but found him a lovely gentle man who was always kind to me.


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