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Minibarmy 3rd October 2018 07:29 PM

Wanted 4” Miniature Burrell Project
 
Hi,

Looking for a 4” Miniature Burrell Traction Engine Project.

Wanting something part built not complete or a pile of bits not started.

Must be a few about somewhere? Maybe tucked away that you’ll never going to get around to finishing?

Many thanks,

Minibarmy.

naomicornish 4th October 2018 06:35 AM

NOT mine.... but this is on eBay... It had sold a few days ago, but it got relisted due to the buyer not realising there was no boiler paperwork with it, despite the seller stating that in the description.... I considered buying it as a 2nd project, but I have plenty to be getting on with with my Foster...... so I must behave.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-Scale-B...53.m1438.l2649

ferguson_tom 4th October 2018 06:41 AM

Station Road steam have one available with a commercially made boiler, wheels are rubbered as well so most the expensive bits are done.

Minibarmy 4th October 2018 09:03 AM

Thanks.

I have seen both of those for sale, the eBay one is a pile of bits I can buy from Live Steam Models and an uncertified boiler which is pretty worthless, together the components aren’t worth anywhere near the asking price and I’m after a project someone has already made a good start on not going from scratch.

The part built on Station Road Steam although on its wheels needs a lot of work redoing as the spokes on all wheels are just wrong! A lot of the parts that come with it are not of any use. I made an enquiry a while back but there’s no manoeuvre on price and we’re quite a distance apart on my valuation to the asking price.

chbeyer 4th October 2018 11:48 AM

Hi,

agree on the Station Road Steam 4" - the spokes are a real joke ;)

Best
Christoph

durhambuilder 4th October 2018 08:09 PM

The boiler on the ebay engine displays the telephone number of TRS boiler makers, may be worth an enquiry to them to see if they have any duplicate documentation. still expensive though.

Minibarmy 4th October 2018 08:14 PM

Already spoken to Terry at TRS. He’s had quite a few enquiry’s about this boiler, unfortunately he hasn’t got any records for it and indicated that it’s 17/18 years old.
Knowing this there’s hardly any value there as you can buy all the items from Live Steam for around £1500 new.

carl_byrne 4th October 2018 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by durhambuilder (Post 406733)
The boiler on the ebay engine displays the telephone number of TRS boiler makers, may be worth an enquiry to them to see if they have any duplicate documentation. still expensive though.

How can a boiler maker not have copies of the paperwork for each boiler made? Is this not a legal requirement for traceability?

Cheers Carl.

Paul30013 4th October 2018 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carl_byrne (Post 406737)
How can a boiler maker not have copies of the paperwork for each boiler made? Is this not a legal requirement for traceability?

Cheers Carl.

17 / 18 years old would put it pre 2002 and CE marking / updated regulations. My understanding now is records should be kept but back then things were a little more cavalier (for better or worse...).

Paul.

carl_byrne 4th October 2018 11:05 PM

Good point but it still seems 'unprofessional' as a few box files would probably store 20 years worth of boilers. It's not like it would require rooms of storage.

Cheers Carl.

cheltenham flyer 5th October 2018 08:22 AM

Carl,

You could not be more wrong a CE approved boiler will now have so much paperwork with it that in some instances my boilers are supplied with as much as 70 pages depending up on the materials certificates.

The CE approval standards we have to work to ie The Pressure Equipment Directive EC97/23 (originally enforce in May 2002) and the latest 2014/68/EU both state that all Certificates must be kept for a minimum period of 10 years.

I have boxes and boxes of records I have to keep.

Minibarmy 11th October 2018 05:52 PM

Very quite everywhere at the moment.

Anyone got anything or know of anything for sale?

gipsykev 16th October 2018 07:32 PM

burrell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Minibarmy (Post 406694)
Hi,

Looking for a 4” Miniature Burrell Traction Engine Project.

Wanting something part built not complete or a pile of bits not started.

Must be a few about somewhere? Maybe tucked away that you’ll never going to get around to finishing?

Many thanks,

Minibarmy.

weve got one , brand new all in boxes never started , its located in Hereford , make us an offer and its yours ;)

Minibarmy 16th October 2018 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gipsykev (Post 407086)
weve got one , brand new all in boxes never started , its located in Hereford , make us an offer and its yours ;)

Messaged you.

gipsykev 16th October 2018 08:19 PM

:cool:


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