There is nothing stopping any engine owner from steaming up and going for the occasional road run, even in the company of one or two others if they share a shed. The world does not revolve around large events, and personally I think those of today are a far cry from what they were 20 years ago.

I seem to remember stirring the pot here years ago with a thread called Why Rallies ?

......and my answer to any "Why?" question is in most cases "Why not?" Don't challenge anyone, if you don't want to be challenged back. Just saying

I do question what things such as monster trucks and stunt bikes have anything to do with rallies. GDSF in 2018 just showed how many engines can be exhibited on-site. If they get rid of all the unnecessary nonsense, they could expand vintage vehicles, stationary engines, etc. In my mind, they could even hypothetically manage to fit 600+ full size engines for the 60th Anniversary, if they really wanted to

You miss the point. The public largely don't care if its 300, 400, 500 engines. They want a days entertainment. For us, walking around 500 engines was great but I'll bet most of the public didn't bother.

Dorset is a spectacle, most rallies can't afford the number of engines they do have turning up. At your average event what do the public at large get from 40 engines that they can't enjoy in 20?

Face it, Steam is still a draw but it isn't the 'main event' any more really.

It boils down to what the public want and making the rally at least break even.

Interesting conversation with the nurse at our local GP this morning. While having the flu jab.

What are we? a week or so in from the first vaccination.

Basically its being rolled out, and fast. Tier 3 is getting priority vs Tier 1 etc. The care home residents are being managed outside of her knowledge (they are Priority 1 as per government guidance)

The Priority 2 is 80+, and front line workers, and this is being managed in Tier 3 areas directly via the bigger doctors surgeries as hubs to get it done quicker (Staffs is tier 3 - where the wife works), but we are in Tier 2 in Shropshire and it is being managed via the hospitals at present.

It seems at present there is enough about to do about 50% of that identified group, and they have 3 1/2 days to dispense it before it needs binning. Fundamentally they invite, any no shows etc means they are ringing round down the list so they use it all. Target wastage is zero. She said the advice is if its going to waste, find a willing victim, any victim and use it. Which will probably mean the non front line staff get a dose.

Advice is enough for the next 50% of target group is due in the next week or so from Belgium. The advice is that Brexit, no matter the outcome will not effect this.

The advice internally to the staff was assuming the Oxford vaccine gets the nod from the boffins then things will ramp up another 4 or 5 notches as this seems to be a far easier stuff to dispense. Basically once it gets the nod things will go ballistic as there is sh1t loads of it in production and on the shelf.

Both need 2 helpings, but dose 1 gives significant protection. Dose 2 gives the advertised immunity.

We were on the mop up Flu, our letters having gone missing in the post, which was rather worrying!.

Good grief you dont rely on getting the letter :confused: we dont ever bother with the letter, just keep an eye on the local health centers newsfeed and once they say they have the flu jab in I'm on the blower booking my wife, me and my mother in. We had ours back in late October from memory, was a while ago now.

My one advice with the NHS is never rely on anything, its not the individuals fault but the system, as I know the individuals work exceptionally hard for little praise.

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May be its the bright buggers that are writing all the software for the health care, etc etc that are not allowing them to share basic essential information from one to another!!!!!! Its called data information what a **** up.

It's like Fred Carno's Circus.

No that was organised...

Who was Fred Carbo, and why was his circus any different to any other?
Happy 2021 to all.
Cheers.
Charlie.

Fred Karno

https://www.nickchurchill.org.uk/fre...-man-of-poole/

Fred Karno had a brother Mic Karno who invented a model construction system.

Mic Karno sets were on every young man's Xmas list.

Karl Marx had a sister called Onya. She invented the starting pistol.

Nosmo King is a very popular guy.
His name is seen everywhere.

Unlike H Vernon Watson...

Hi Charlie, it was a railway mans term at Plymouth Laira Depot for anything that was a complete shambles and should read " it is like Fred Carno's Circus". Don't ask me who Fred Carno was as I don't know. |The comment was usually addressed to the singularly inept traincrew management that existed at Laira between 1979 to 1986.

I know Mic very well as I have two large boxes of his products under my desk!

I've was lead to believe that Fred Carno's army was infact set up as a circus that went to America from England, Mr.Carno took with him Charlie Chaplin and Stan Lorral. I may be wrong and stand to be corrected, but thats what I was lead to believe.

Not quite correct. Karno was a circus artist, comic , impressario and artists manager who mounted package shows for the halls and took troupes of discoveries, his army, like Chaplin and Laurel on tours of the states where they were poached by the fledgling studios.

Hi Roger, thanks for the correction.

southern rallys canceled shillingstone rally west bay rally chickerell rally all in dorset

The way things are going at the moment, do you think that once again we should forget about rallys this year and concentrate on 2022? At least with staycations and Brexit issues possibly more people will take their holidays in the UK next year and will thus be looking for attractions to attend eg Traction Engine Rallys!

Ah bring back the British sea side experience. Two weeks of rain sat under a damp umbrella on the front at Bognor. Cant wait.

the roll out of the vaccine is going to take until late summer so my guess is that we may get some late rallys if they are willing to risk the outlay

If any rallies go ahead this year, most likely it'll be only the generations above me attending them. No word, as of yet of how soon the ones my generation or the one below, without any underlying health issues or working in the Care industry, will receive any. Shame there isn't enough available yet to do household by household - I'd be delighted if I could get it at the same time as my mum, I guess a dude can dream

I am looking forward to being able to go away for a few days to get my head straight after the sudden and unexpected death of my wife a few weeks ago. You can tell how messed up I am, I did an online shopping order for next Monday with Tesco and my 24 year old grandson asked for a couple of extra items and it was already a big shop ie over £100.00. When I went on the website today I had only done the order for the wrong week as I had only ordered 3 items for Monday and the basket supplement and delivery outweighed the cost of the items. Also with the big shop instead of ordering Mini Kievs for my grandson I had ordered Turkey Dinosaurs! I had to delete the whole order apart from one item to keep my delivery slot and I had to redo the whole list correctly today and in the process I saved myself £27.00!!

All of the Outdoorshows events are on now according to web site.
https://outdoorshows.co.uk/homepage/

It will be advisable to buy tickets for events as they are limited to 4000 per day under government guide lines.
Confirmation by Government later this month.

Not after June 21st, all restrictions should be lifted then.

Until the hoards come back from their jolly in Ibiza where they caught the next installment...

Reading between the lines and looking at the statistics (rather than listening to the BBC), I've come to the conclusion that fundamentally its all over. At least in the UK

Even the governments own statistics say 20% of the population has had it (other sources believe nearer 35) and with whatever percent of adults now immunised (50 odd percent?, with a good percentage having had both doses), means that we are there or thereabouts for herd immunity. And things get better and better by the day.

1 dose of whatever they have to hand protects 100% from hospitalisation (and therefore death), and reduces likelyhood of transmission significantly. This seems to be true whatever the variant. The NHS isnt going to get overwhelmed anytime soon, or ever as things stand.

The point where Boris says go is fast approaching. And like it or lump it, if you dont want the jab he is going to simply wish you luck, while the rest of us get on with life.

We simply need to wait for the rest of the developed world to catch up, and travel to those countries will open up. It seems tavel to the less developed world is going to cost you another fortnight in isolation going forward. For the forseeable.

The worry is a variant that dodges the protection given by the various jabs, and given we are 18months in, its not happened yet, so what are the chances?. Either way theres sod all any of us (or indeed Boris) can do about that.

Frankly I couldnt care less if Boris did or didnt say that he would sooner see bodies piled high than another lockdown. I don't care if he said it, but I agree 100% with the sentiment.

I hope brass cleaner is right, BUT who is going to sign off the risk assessment that face covering and social distancing is history?
Martin

It is easy to tell if it is summer as the rain gets warmer. Also, the seagulls in Torquay fly upside down as there is nothing worth shi...ng on!

I guess if Boris's team withdraws the requirements as it is rumoured they might then you have plenty of justification for removing from your RA, just quote Mr Whitty or MR Van Tam?

Paul.

Rain, I wished, the garden needs it.
 

Bognor has always taken a ribbing over wet summers but
its actually the sunniest place in the UK and we don't get a lot of rain and we look forward to having you back.

PS, driest place in the UK is Dungeness in Kent where the nuclear power station is.
Nick - in Bognor :D

I hope to get to a few rallies really missed them last year , anyone know if the ones happening will have the usual quota of engines , i suspect numbers will be a bit down as some dont bother to get their engines inspected etc for just one or two shows.


everyone is patting themselves on the back about the vaccination thing yet if you look at graphs on the net covid deaths reduced from the end end of May until mid October to small numbers last year without the benefit of vaccinations . there is an animation that shows nothing until mid October when its bursts into life again soemwhere in the preston area , and then eastern scotland , then suddenly eveywhere again , my guess was university students returning.

its an enclosed space thing , its a winter thing it appears , but at least with the vaccination you are much less likely to have a severe reaction to it.


sorry rant over , roll on what ever rallies we can get to.