I would suggest the TER is probably wrong. It’s a very interesting engine, so has rightly attracted seventy years worth of speculation about its origins. There are no signs it had a third cylinder, the cylinder casting has blank, unmachined, places where a third cylinder would have required extra glands and flange connections.

Much discussion here.
https://www.tractiontalkforum.com/sh...ighlight=11799

Again I can't say anything for certain regarding this particular engine, but I have seen photo's of three cylinder Fowler gun tractors with the third cylinder mounted tandem fashion, presumably on the H.P, cylinder, apparently 'Replacing' the cylinder cover, presumably there would be some steam connection to the 'Transfer port' between HP and LP. It is of course possible that Fowler may have fited a new cylinder when (if?) the third cylinder was removed, Just out of interest, did this engine come out of Hardwickes?

A first class event… how a rally should be thumbsup

Agree, a proper rally and a great day out. Huge round of applause to the organisers. Long way from my home but will definitely be making the effort to attend again next year. One query though, could some kind sole please confirm the ID of the Marshall portable? Cheers

Fowler 11799, this is what I have in my amateur records, I believe I have seen photo's from the 1960's as a showmans engine, also I believe it was at Dorset 2022 still with its dynamo and bracket.

11799 1909 E1 Class Compound Showman’s Tractor, Reg. No: HO 5609, 5nhp, 7 tons, “THE VICTORY”
History:
1909 - Built on 31 March as a tractor and sold to the War Department and used for gun haulage working with the Army Service Corps as No. ASC63.
1919 - Sold at an Army Surplus sale.
1919 - Purchased by engine dealer Jo Gale & Son, Winchester, Hampshire.
1920 - Sold to showman Nelson Noyce, Petersfield, Hampshire who converted her to a full showman’s tractor and named her.
1940 - Retired to the yard of Walter Seward, Petersfield, Hampshire where she was stored until sold for preservation.
* - Sold to W. Foster, Bognor Regis, Sussex.
1954 - Sold to W. G. (Bill) Druce, Bognor Regis, Sussex.
1976 - After Bill’s death she was sold to Les Searle, Horsham, Sussex

Hope this is of some help

Arthur (Arfursteam)

Thanks Arthur

Having checked back through my program archive, she appeared at the early Festivals of Transport at Hellingly in East Sussex as a showman's tractor..

I am intrigued by the historically accurate heavy haulage steam rollers.......
Martin

called having some fun I guess :)

Exactly! More entertaining for the public than a crowd in deck chairs sitting behind a big 3-wheeled kettle.