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8_10 Brass Cleaner 28th June 2011 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by notyalc (Post 166237)
As far as I know, Goliath was painted by Alan Painter for Frank Lythgoe. Looking at it at Castle Fraser it has been touched up in places, some of it looks new- particularly the normal areas of black, smokebox, chimney firebox sides. The rest looks well cared for and has a nice patina to it. Surely testament to a good job in the first place?

Undoubtedly a good job in the first place, the patina is lovely. Did Alan repaint the whole lot or just tidy it up?

notyalc 28th June 2011 12:02 PM

Don't know. I would have thought that Frank had everything done properly not a touch up.

Steam Scenes 28th June 2011 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by notyalc (Post 166243)
Don't know. I would have thought that Frank had everything done properly not a touch up.

I was reading last night Frank Lythgoe debuted the restored engine in the mid-1970's, I assume this was the last time it was painted.

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/pictur...1_DSC_2553.jpg

8_10 Brass Cleaner 28th June 2011 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Steam Scenes (Post 166248)
I was reading last night Frank Lythgoe debuted the restored engine in the mid-1970's, I assume this was the last time it was painted.

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/pictur...1_DSC_2553.jpg

Hence why I suggested that the bulk of the paint may be older than me!

Was it debuted at a party in Lancashire by any chance?

nicktrex 28th June 2011 03:20 PM

Other than the Canopy it does look identical to how it did in 1986 when this photo was taken.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/167/4...1c56dc21_o.jpg

I found it on Flickr so all credits go to Jonnie3.

mugglesquop 28th June 2011 03:24 PM

different dynamo (or paint). also logo on Belly Tank is different

8_10 Brass Cleaner 28th June 2011 03:28 PM

The Cockrell was on all of Mr Lythgoes engines.

nicktrex 28th June 2011 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mugglesquop (Post 166278)
different dynamo (or paint). also logo on Belly Tank is different

I think it's merely the lining on the dynamo which has changed, but that could we have happened in Mr Lythgoe's ownership?

As Hedd has mentioned, the Cockerel appeared on all of Frank Lythgoe's engines and I think Mike Dreelan has that emblem on most of his engines too? (or atleast on Dolphin & Goliath)

On closer look, both Dolphin & Goliath have the same emblem however Goliath has a blue ribbon around it and Dolphin has, most likely, gold leaf around it.

manxman 29th June 2011 04:19 PM

will woodward was involved in painting Goliath some where down the line

8_10 Brass Cleaner 29th June 2011 06:00 PM

I've just been looking at some of my 1980's Bishops Castle photos.

I recoln that the bulk of the paint date from the mid 1970's when it was painted at Johnsons of Banks by Bob Horthornwaite.

The canopy has certainly seen some attention, it is a different dynamo, and of course Mr Dreelan has his crest on the tank.

But the rest looks pretty much identical to the paint job in my photos. No doubt with touching up and varnish. It certainly is beatifully kept.

Didn't Alan Painter do Cock of the North?.


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