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cocky_1987 21st September 2010 03:14 PM
i thought it looked a bit like a BB1 but it is a 'church' valve gear that was fitted on the cylinder

Bosiboz 21st September 2010 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by cocky_1987 (Post 129965)
haven't got any details on it, other than its a 2? inch scale single cylinder fowler, not sure what it's based on as the engine itself looks more modern than the cylinder design
It looks a bit bigger than 2" scale. It could almost be mistaken for full size in the photo if all the water containers & other bits & pieces were not in view.

Bosiboz 21st September 2010 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by cocky_1987;129900
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http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1285019334

Does anyone have any information on the restoration project in the last picture?
The firebox looks similar to a Garrett wrinkly top firebox. If it's to go in the boiler on the trailer it may be a Garrett compound of some sort similar to Vera.

Looking at the box the wrapper plate has been fabricated in 3 sections going by the weld half down the side. The top of the box is also flat front to back rather than being concave as per Garrett's design

Bosiboz 21st September 2010 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 00000 (Post 129971)
I think its a 'Church' patent circular slide valve, which dates from the 1880's. but the rest of it looks like a BB1 !
Weren't there some early Fowler single cylinder ploughing engines built or re-built with a Church valve gear cylinder.

cocky_1987 21st September 2010 04:10 PM
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It looks a bit bigger than 2" scale
sorry about that, once i wrote it i realised it was wrong, it was bigger than 2", most probably 3" as the miniature hidden behind was a 4" agricultural

cocky_1987 21st September 2010 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bosiboz (Post 129978)
The firebox looks similar to a Garrett wrinkly top firebox. If it's to go in the boiler on the trailer it may be a Garrett compound of some sort similar to Vera.

Looking at the box the wrapper plate has been fabricated in 3 sections going by the weld half down the side. The top of the box is also flat front to back rather than being concave as per Garrett's design
i did wonder if it was a garrett, purely because the cylinder block but wasn't really sure

Ransome 21570 21st September 2010 04:47 PM
I think I remember someone saying that it was a Garrett 4CD on the back of the pick up but I can't remember who owned it.

I'm pretty sure the miniature ploughing engine is a 4inch, possibly a 3inch.

Hope this helps
Jim

Bosiboz 21st September 2010 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Ransome 21570 (Post 129993)
I think I remember someone saying that it was a Garrett 4CD on the back of the pick up but I can't remember who owned it.

I'm pretty sure the miniature ploughing engine is a 4inch, possibly a 3inch.

Hope this helps
Jim
It just looked bigger than a 4CD. Must be something about these photos or my eyes playing tricks.

00000 21st September 2010 07:18 PM
That sure is a strange looking firebox, esp. if it has a flat section on the crown! who made it/

Bosiboz 21st September 2010 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 00000 (Post 130019)
That sure is a strange looking firebox, esp. if it has a flat section on the crown! who made it/
It should look more like this

http://i534.photobucket.com/albums/e.../Film95015.jpg


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