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Old 18th June 2017, 02:37 PM
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Looking for roller head stock for c type Aveling roller if anybody might have one please contact 01491 680889
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Old 19th June 2017, 06:52 AM
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are you looking for a new or used headstock? I can give you the contact for somebody who has had some brand new ones made for 8 tonners.
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are you looking for a new or used headstock? I can give you the contact for somebody who has had some brand new ones made for 8 tonners.
Just as an aside, if it's being used for 'reversion' it has to be either the original from the engine or a brand new part made to original spec.
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Just as an aside, if it's being used for 'reversion' it has to be either the original from the engine or a brand new part made to original spec.
No not converting ,Only replacing due to old one Seen better days
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are you looking for a new or used headstock? I can give you the contact for somebody who has had some brand new ones made for 8 tonners.
Would like to know more about about the new headstocks
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Who or what body says that Steve?

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Who or what body says that Steve?

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It's whatever VOSA is known as these days, I don't know how to link, but it won't be hard to google.


By the way, thanks for returning the Orsett entry forms.
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It's whatever VOSA is known as these days, I don't know how to link, but it won't be hard to google.


By the way, thanks for returning the Orsett entry forms.
Can't imagine that is so....(sorry,can't be bothered to look up google)....If that were the case, then how are people still getting away with making fairy tell engines out of rollers and lying to the DVLA and insurance companies once they have butchered them?
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It's whatever VOSA is known as these days, I don't know how to link, but it won't be hard to google.
May well be strictly true however in reality i dont think the DVLA will care or be able to prove either way if a headstock (or any part for that matter) is original or not, none of them i know of have any ID markings apart from the casting numbers which would be the same on all the relevant types.
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Can't imagine that is so....(sorry,can't be bothered to look up google)....If that were the case, then how are people still getting away with making fairy tell engines out of rollers and lying to the DVLA and insurance companies once they have butchered them?


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May well be strictly true however in reality i dont think the DVLA will care or be able to prove either way if a headstock (or any part for that matter) is original or not, none of them i know of have any ID markings apart from the casting numbers which would be the same on all the relevant types.

In practice you are probably both right, but by the letter, if conversions/reversions are regarded as radically altered or reconstructed vehicles then they only qualify to retain their original registrations by re-using (on a points system) genuine parts from a SINGLE vehicle.Chassis components carry a higher points rating than suspension components, a headstock is a chassis component, a perch bracket/axle is a suspension component a NEW headstock has had no previous I/D as a vehicle component and therefore would be legit,a used one has had previous I/D and therefore would constitute part of a second vehicle. Similarly a NEW perch bracket/axle has no I/D but a used one has. This does of course mean that if a roller was converted say 30 years ago, before these things mattered (in law) it probably retained it's original registration BUT if it were to be reverted, using components from another roller, then, on the assumption that whatever VOSA is called now required to inspect it, and could determine that it contained previously used parts from a second vehicle, then DVLA would be within it's remit to require re-registration as age related or possibly Q plate.

Just as a matter of interest, how many roller/tractor conversions have been carried out in, say the last 30 years? (since 1987)
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