Shrewsbury Steam Rally.

[Lancashire Lad]

Originally Posted by v8spider

Bonnie is a lovely roller with loads of local history, can never imagine it if it ever got messed around with, I am sure it would never happen.


Certainly is dumpy!

What are we talking about The engine or one of its previous owners??

And I thought it was only dogs that looked like there owners not owners looking like there engines....

[Broken Firebar]

Meeeeoooowww!

Surely you meant Purposeful, powerful, compact and handsome.

[mark lewis]

Originally Posted by Broken Firebar

Meeeeoooowww!

Surely you meant Purposeful, powerful, compact and handsome.

I cant see a Burrell

[Pandora's Firebox]

Originally Posted by 8_10 Brass Cleaner

'Bonnie' has never been anything but a very fine roller, a D2.

for info here is a very similar engine, but this time sold as a 'convertable' by Fowlers with both sets of parts. I gather the convertables had some extra diameter in the bores, and the order books in MERL at Reading bear this out. She would be identical to Bonnie in roller form.

Front end is correct, i.e the bits that matter were supplied with this engine. The rear wheels are 'home made'. Certainly is dumpy!

'Bonnie' really is quite bonnie.

The flywheel spoils the convertible, if it were a tad smaller, it possibly could look more acceptable, but then would not look as good in roller form. Rear wheels look good if they are home made - they appear to have pretty much followed the original design and kept them as rolls, rather than something completely bodged as we see on most showmans tractor conversions.

[Broken Firebar]

Paul

When you see the Fowler catalogue illustrating the D2 convertible as Queen of the Boyne it looks much more in proportion. The rear Traction Engine Wheels are the same size over the strakes as Q of B's home made ones are over the rubbers. This makes a massive difference.

Perhaps Rod Boesing or 8-10 can find the post with the catalogue picture shown?

Your reference to keeping them as rolls rather than bodged is misguided as Q of B was sold by Fowlers as a Convertible and is not a conversion and as such would have had sets of Rolls and Engine wheels supplied complete. Sadly the engine wheels were cut up as far as I can tell.

Hope that helps.

[Roger]

Catologue pictures Possibly Here, scroll down to page 32
http://www.tractiontalkforum.com/sho...wler+catalogue

[Lancashire Lad]

Originally Posted by Broken Firebar

Meeeeoooowww!

Surely you meant Purposeful, powerful, compact and handsome.

Originally Posted by mark lewis

I cant see a Burrell

You can both come back to reality any time you want

[8_10 Brass Cleaner]

Originally Posted by Broken Firebar

Paul

When you see the Fowler catalogue illustrating the D2 convertible as Queen of the Boyne it looks much more in proportion. The rear Traction Engine Wheels are the same size over the strakes as Q of B's home made ones are over the rubbers. This makes a massive difference.

Perhaps Rod Boesing or 8-10 can find the post with the catalogue picture shown?

Hope that helps.

Your wish is my command, as a traction engine



and as a roller



Though this is from the same catalogue, keen observers will notice that it isn't the same engine, the roller is a long box variant.

Nevertheless, as Tony points out, you can see the larger diameter TE wheels as opposed to the hind rolls. Thats why 'Queen of the Boyne' looked odd.

Tony, Rod and I went hunting Fowler wheels in Northamptonshire one day. I had spied a pair of suitable Fowler rear centres leaning up against a wall whilst working in the Watford Gap area. I didn't remember exactly where they were, but we found them, and eventually Tony secured them. He was going to make some proper engine wheels for it, but then fell in love with something big and black......

[Pandora's Firebox]

Originally Posted by Broken Firebar

Your reference to keeping them as rolls rather than bodged is misguided as Q of B was sold by Fowlers as a Convertible and is not a conversion and as such would have had sets of Rolls and Engine wheels supplied complete. Sadly the engine wheels were cut up as far as I can tell.

Ok thanks for the info, my knowledge of convertibles is somewhat limited!

I've probably not been very clear in my post - When I say bodged, I mean something that neither represents a 'roll' or a 'wheel' as I have seen on some conversions (not convertibles). I was just using conversions as a reference because this is where most home made wheels (and everything else for that matter) are bodged........ i mean made.