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ronj 24th June 2017 11:11 PM

Bloxham Rally: 24.06.17
 
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Thanks for looking.

Phil Procter 25th June 2017 09:24 PM

I see you saved the best one till last thumbsup

Phil

buggeroff 25th June 2017 09:55 PM

3395 Phil. glad u remember it mate.

Phil Procter 25th June 2017 11:00 PM

I know it was over 30 years ago, but in my head its still mine Chris.

Phil

carl_byrne 25th June 2017 11:44 PM

Another cracking set of photographs - many thanks for posting them.

Echoing the sentiment above - the Dalesman does look particularly fabulous in green.

Cheers Carl.

Gordon Bennett 26th June 2017 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carl_byrne (Post 387852)
...the Dalesman does look particularly fabulous in green.

Cheers Carl.

And sounds as good as it looks!

When it was pulling the trailer up the hill yesterday, conversation stopped in order to listen to it working! Wow, what an engine!

Michael

elijahbell 26th June 2017 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil Procter (Post 387844)
I see you saved the best one till last thumbsup

Phil

Seconded. What a fabulous engine!

Phil Procter 26th June 2017 12:01 PM

If any of you guys know where "Harewood Bank" is you will know what I mean.

We used to take The Dalesman to the steam rally up there in top gear and the sound was absolutely amazing, no gear noise at all just the engine barking up the chimney and a slight rise and fall of the front spring on each power stroke. We used to just give the simpling valve a couple of prods on the sharp bend near the top and that sounded even more awesome echoing through the trees.
When driving through a town on the level, most people could not hear it approaching it is so quiet, we had a few people step out in front of us until we realised, after that we usually let everyone know we were coming through in the usual way.

It was sometimes a bit un-nerving until you got used to it, but when it is working hard the crankshaft flexes and if you are sat in the steering seat, the flywheel is right in front of you with a fair old sideways wobble going on.

Happy days. :)

Phil

The Pirate 26th June 2017 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil Procter (Post 387873)
It was sometimes a bit un-nerving until you got used to it, but when it is working hard the crankshaft flexes and if you are sat in the steering seat, the flywheel is right in front of you with a fair old sideways wobble going on.

Phil

I used to crew on Fowler 11111 when owned by Geoff Mathews and watching the flywheel on that whilst pulling hard up Watford Gap in Dorset was frightening.
More used to Burrell manufacture these days, and 'Joe Chamberlain' flexes a little. The crank for that came from Ted Freeman who had it as a spare for The Dalesman. It was the original out of Joe Chamberlain.

Proff 26th June 2017 01:22 PM

3937 does the wobbly flywheel trick when pulling hard, as you say, it's somewhat unnerving at first. BB1s will set the flywheel flapping when they are pulling hard on the rope, but at least that's off to the left and somewhere on the horizon with one of those.

ronj 27th June 2017 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil Procter (Post 387844)
I see you saved the best one till last thumbsup

Phil

It was either The Dalesman or the Z7
The Dalesman heading East from the 2014 NTET road run at Old Warden.

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Phil Procter 27th June 2017 06:26 AM

I have quite a long association with The Dalesman, the little lad in this photo is me and I just turned 61, the photo was taken on one of our visits to see John Crowther and his collection at Long Preston, and he took us out for a spin.
Little did I know then that one day we would come own this superb engine for a few years.

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Phil

carl_byrne 27th June 2017 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by The Pirate (Post 387880)
I used to crew on Fowler 11111 when owned by Geoff Mathews and watching the flywheel on that whilst pulling hard up Watford Gap in Dorset was frightening.

Geoff seemed to get more enthusiastic the more it wobbled - a kind of visual 'power meter'.

Cheers Carl.

Gordon Bennett 27th June 2017 07:38 AM

Regarding The Dalesman, does anyone have any pre-preservation photos of it they are willing to post? I'm thinking of the days when it worked for a living and also, possibly, standing out of use. I don't know the history of the engine - I'm assuming it did actually stand unused for a time in a yard somewhere...?

Michael

8_10 Brass Cleaner 27th June 2017 09:41 AM

It was Hentons engine at Hopwas, shared a shed with Conqueror, Rajah, Nero and a Marshall. It pretty much went straight into preservation in Staffs from work.

Phil Procter 27th June 2017 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Gordon Bennett (Post 387937)
Regarding The Dalesman, does anyone have any pre-preservation photos of it they are willing to post? I'm thinking of the days when it worked for a living and also, possibly, standing out of use. I don't know the history of the engine - I'm assuming it did actually stand unused for a time in a yard somewhere...?

Michael

I think these have been on here before, I copied them from somewhere on the internet a while ago and I apologise if they belong to someone else.

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This is one of it stood in our yard in the late 70's

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Phil

Gordon Bennett 27th June 2017 12:26 PM

Phil - thanks for posting the pictures; the Henton's yard must have been somewhere special to visit back then.

I have always had a soft spot for The Dalesman, it is a wonderful looking engine. It looks good from every angle and is so well proportioned – the scope to feature it in drawings has been many and varied; as a road loco on haulage or with a threshing machine.

Below is a pencil drawing that I actually started many years ago and re-worked more recently – to see if it could work as a bigger and more involved drawing. The subject is indeed The Dalesman and after reading the post from Hedd, it is more correct than I thought - I assume it was used for threshing.


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The picture would need more figures in it to truthfully represent a threshing machine at work and a few hens would also bring it to life. I do not know if I will pursue it as an idea as I have some good references of a Fowler agricultural with a threshing drum. An agricultural engine is more appropriate and if I am not careful all of these drawings are going to be of road locomotives.

I have a rough drawing which has a couple of engines winching a bridge girder in to place. This rough also has The Dalesman in it as one of the engines. It is an idea I very much want to develop but it would be another extremely difficult picture to pull off.


The drawing I have posted here is on a size A4 piece of paper which is why it is of a much freer style when compared to my drawing of the Duke of York. My drawing of the big Fowler is on size A1 card. Creating my artwork in different sizes is a way to ensure there is some level of variation within my style of working.

I hope members of T-T enjoy my drawing of “The Dalesman”.

Michael

Phil Procter 27th June 2017 03:06 PM

Put me down for a copy when you get to that stage please.

Phil

J5 HWE 25th October 2017 02:27 PM

Dalesman
 
I have some pics of the Dalesman at Masham July 1975 at the prize giving.
taken by some of my friends from Harrogate College.

towd crank 26th October 2017 05:42 PM

I first saw it at a Wilsic Hall rally in the mid 60's, probably 1963 of '64. Lookes just a stunning then as it still does.

andy_smith 28th October 2017 05:05 PM

The Dalesman is a preservation name as is the half length awning. She worked with a 3/4 awning and was called City of Exeter..


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