Klondyke October Steam Party
 

Just a few pictures of this weekend's event.

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Enjoy

Graham

Any Miniatures at Klondyke !. I should be there but health probs prevent. *cry


Cheers


Tez ;)

Sorry to hear about that Tez, yes there where/are plenty, but I very rarely take pictures of miniatures, I'm surrounded with them in the shed, but I dream of the big brothers ;)

Graham

A few more pics. from today, including a few of the minatures - directly & indirectly.

Anyone know if any progress is being planned with "Togo"

Admiral Togo was being worked on around 1996 but don't know what's happened since.

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Burrell 2706 taken 2007 at Klondyke Mill

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togo, not seen that one for years, thats a lovely engine....now back to putting our upstairs floor back!

i think togo needs a new boiler and a few other things at the moment it stays sheeted up next to coffin doger.i think the club are trying to rase some mony for its restoration.

cheers

tom

As the 14th picture above shows

The club are actualy well on their to rearing the money, a small start has already been made, but work will not start in earnest untill the full amount is raised, wich will not be long. The engine needs a complete new boiler and firebox back head and throatplate. complete new bearings throughout, aswell as shafts. new pistons motion pins replacing, a new tender and a new cab.
Every single gear needs replacement and it needs a new pump.
The rest of it is good to go again tho.
I was the last person to drive it before it was condemmed.

I thought some of this work had already been done in previous 'restorations'?

It had some stay tubes put in, and the pump removed/lost/stolen/sold.
The cab is gone and the gears have to be seen to be beleived.
It realy had turned into a rolling disaster looking for an occaision.

I didn't know you were so interested in the the thetford produced products !!:confused:

I'm not - just wondering what the scrap value is;)

I wonder which will be completed earlist the Burrell or the Garratt ?

My money is on the the Burrell

That is basically exactly what ours needed apart from we had one new horn plate aswell. We restored the cab but everything else was b@ggered ! Owd Isaac certainly got his monies worth from his engines ! Oh yes we never had a pump to start with !

The pump is gone of ours too! I seem to recollect owd Isaac removed the pumps of scc threshing engines for some reason. Anybody know why?

Bridsons ordered engines without pumps. And took the one off ours.

As did Eddisons in the PV era.

Burrell TB 2845 Admiral Togo. Ex Isaac Ball A place called Findern Open day of a man named Dennis Walker about 1972 http://www.tractiontalkforum.com/pic...pictureid=2121 http://www.tractiontalkforum.com/pic...pictureid=2120

What can we read into that statement ?!. :p


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[QUOTE=wamjl50;134278]Burrell TB 2845 Admiral Togo. Ex Isaac Ball A place called Findern Open day of a man named Dennis Walker about 1972 [img]

The man's name was actually Dennis Waters who at that time owned Marshall S type roller Anne. He used to organise a steam party at the Greyhound pub next to the canal in Findern. O happy days:)

Anyone know what's happened to Marshall roller 'Anne'. Can't remember the works number. Is it still at Klondyke?

[QUOTE=Bosiboz;134329]Its owned by Chris and James Hutton and lives in peak forset. If they carry on like they are it should be going chuff next year!!

[QUOTE=Bosiboz;134329]Here's a rather poor picture of Anne at the Greyhound steam party

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I've posted these photos before but here's a couple more of the Admiral at Findern

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Have you any more photos of this do Bozi? The roller next to Anne is W&S Caroline, when Alfie Baker owned it.

Dose anybody know what fleet number and what type of owners the Admiral had?

Ethel on here is the real Isaac Ball expert but from memory Togo was bought new by Balls in 1904 as his fleet number 6,(2512 is 4 and 2513 is 5) he must have been impressed by his previous purchases in 1902 of 2512 & 2513 as he ordered another identical engine. As mentioned Ethel will be able to fill in more detail.

Intestingly "The Admiral" as it is known to most people at the club came out of Burrells works with the name "Admiral Togo" It wasnt untill the second world war when Japan lost respect from the British that its name was then changed to "The Admiral" This is how it was when it entered preservation but had its original name returned when reposessed by the club, Even now tho it is nearly always referred to with its abreviated name.

Admiral Togo , C in C of the Japanese Grand Fleet , defeated the Russian's Port Arthur squadron at the Battle of the Yellow Sea in August 1904 . The Russians then sailed their Baltic fleet half way around the world , to have them blown out of the water by Togo at Tsushima in May 1905 .

Burrells . or old man Ball , were quite quick off the mark , 2706 being sent away on 14 October '04

Britain had supplied all three fleets , so it was all awfully good for business .

Chris, a guy called rawcliffe had it before the club, that is he bought it from Balls.

I always wonder wht Issac Ball named some of his engines, clearly Admiral Togo was a famous man, and no doubt in all the papers, and I don't think he had done any damage to the British Empire

Cristiaan Rudolf de Wet was a different matter. One of the celebrated Generals of the earlier anglo Boer war, then in the Boer War proper gave us brits more than one good kicking!. He was probably the best of the Boer leader. By 1903 he had been acting president of the Orange Free State and had toured Europe. Strikes me an odd thing to call an engine after an ememy.

After all, nobody called any engines after Erwin Rommell!

Perhaps Old Ball had a sense of humour ?

Admiral Togo was seen as a hero by the Britsh press/public for defeating the Russians because the Russian fleet on their outward voyage had attacked some english fishing trawlers (claiming they were Japanese torpedo boats) I think 2 were sunk. The Britsh fleet were sent to intervene and chased the Russian fleet into port only major diplomatic work prevented it becoming a serious diplomatic incident. From the accounts of the day the Russian gunnery must have been truly piss poor as several thousand shells were "aimed" at the fishing fleet but fortunately very few found their mark.

The name is reputed to have been removed on Isaacs instructions after Pearl Harbour and the start of Japanese attacks on British interests in the far east.

There is a picture of her in the Lancashire edition of Steaming (Feb 76) being retubed in April 1958.

Not long after that Raymond Rawcliffe bought her from Balls but then sold her to the club. The first NSCTEC rally she attended was Alton Towers in 61.

Now the big question for me is did she have a name plate like on C.R Dewet (circular on the tool box) or a burrell style one below the cylinder block on the flywheel side?. I think it could well be the later as when she was at Alton towers in 61 she had a fleet number plate and it was not on the flywheel side as all the photos I have seen of her at that time are of course from that side.

Alton Towers 1961

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Burrells sent Togo away on 14th October 1904 , the Russians shelled the fising boats on the night of 21st October , and the damaged boats limped into Hull with the news on 23rd . I do wonder what was the chronology of the naming .

I guess he just wanted to call the two engines of his order after the opposing generals, however it does seem odd that he called the first one after the enemy - probably he just thought that he was a damn good general and and he was lucky as he got a damn good engine to suit the name !!;)

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Have you any more photos of this do Bozi? The roller next to Anne is W&S Caroline, when Alfie Baker owned it.

Reply With Quote I have some more pictures of this steam party Donated by Harry Turner Harry and Charlie Bowen on the footplate of picture 1 picture 2 is Don pritchard and Charlie Don owned Fowler D2 14333 Hope you like this set



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Thanks for posting brings back many happy memories. I do have some more photos of these events but can't seem to locate them at present.

Here's a few I've found - quality is a bit ropey though

1. Foster 14410 Sprig; Van Houten's Foden; Garrett 'Olive'
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2. W&S Roller 'Caroline'
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3. Marshall Rollers - 'Goolie', Blodwen, Anne, Garrett 'Olive', Van Houten Foden, Foster 'Sprig'

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4. Foster '14410 Sprig'

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5. Foster '14410 Sprig'

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