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ethel 13th January 2015 04:04 PM

If anyone is going to have bits cast or make up a bell then I would also be interested in having one.

8_10 Brass Cleaner 13th January 2015 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lancashire Lad (Post 324797)
In short yes, except the bell is slightly different profile. Just need to take all the components to the foundry and have a few sets cast... Although Chris told me himself that that wasn't what he was after... has he now change his mind?

You know what he is like. Good job anneke chose the house.

Ill moither the git tonight to see if a copy of yours will do. I dont really want to take mine to pieces as its all peened over.

Anthony, if Dans is no good I'm sure we can sort something.

8_10 Brass Cleaner 13th January 2015 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunrolling (Post 324800)
Have got one coming in from the States next week.

Therses a few of those about. Very like the Aveling ones but the bell seems bigger.

8_10 Brass Cleaner 13th January 2015 05:46 PM

Dan.

He says he doesnt like the shape of your bell.....!.....

He is a pain in the arse

Ransomes AM54 13th January 2015 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 8_10 Brass Cleaner (Post 324819)
Dan.

He says he doesnt like the shape of your bell.....!.....

He is a pain in the arse

A square one might be hard to find.

8_10 Brass Cleaner 14th January 2015 08:53 AM

Right

Here is the guts of my bell

http://www.steamscenes.org.uk/tti/14/008_1250.jpg

In my opinion 95% of the components are simply made out of sheet material. Mine is brass, but I would suggest water cut stainless (or steel) a better option. The rest is lathe work and drilling holes. Leaving the problem of the bulbous striker.

I have drawn round the internal components of my bell. And am happy to fire a 1:1 scan of these templates to anyone who wants one via e-mail (for free). Chris is having a copy already. You will have to live with my humour on the sheet, and mixed imperial and metricated dims.

I have agreed to convert my bell section into a pattern to take to my tame foundry to cast Chris one in Brass (assuming this can be done without butchering it).

I am also happy to take orders for more 'bells'. These will cost more or less whatever it costs me to get them done. I can't give a price presently, but my foundry is not in the business of ripping people off.

Any interest in some bell castings?, plus the templates? you can then make your own bell.

Lancashire Lad 14th January 2015 11:47 AM

Hedd, are you just getting the Bell cast or all the hammer, thrower, lever and backing plate as well? If not, I can offer all these components as I have patterns for them, seeing as your is all assembled.

I'll stick to my dog bowl style bell though thank you Hedd.

Just to note, I think there is a copy of the signalling gong mechanism drawing in one of Gilberts books...

8_10 Brass Cleaner 14th January 2015 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lancashire Lad (Post 324880)
Hedd, are you just getting the Bell cast or all the hammer, thrower, lever and backing plate as well? If not, I can offer all these components as I have patterns for them, seeing as your is all assembled.

I'll stick to my dog bowl style bell though thank you Hedd.

Just to note, I think there is a copy of the signalling gong mechanism drawing in one of Gilberts books...

No just going to do the bell. it is 126mm OD diameter if that helps to confirm if your guts would suit.

I do not want to dismantle mine, but I see no reason to, everything is simply made out of flat stock except the striker, and I could carve one of them out of solid with an angle grinder if I had too, so have no doubt Chris could.

D-valve 14th January 2015 03:09 PM

If you don't mind the cost, new longcase clock bells are available in various sizes from horological parts suppliers, they come in various sizes in the correct metal with a nice ring to them.

They can sometimes be purchased quite cheaply in salerooms on old movements.

http://www.m-p.co.uk/muk/parts/chap0...0280043815.htm

http://www.m-p.co.uk/muk/parts/chap0...0280051215.htm

clayton21 14th January 2015 03:20 PM

Gentlemen & Ladies,

What is the bell needed or - I can see the parallel with a bicycle but surely your average steam tractor makes too much noise for such a bell to be heard / used as a warning (and you've got a whistle for that anyway) .....


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